Pavétour 2013, 15h
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:06 pm
JOIN
Right now only 7 teams... one of them the notorious multi ornyorny/delfini, this time he is sorry. More serious teams are: Petit Singe, Quick, Gaurain, Vagaderi, Liberty Lula and Cordoba
Atypical pavétour, with the mountains.. so it's not really important to have x strong pavériders. Just the right ones... and not sure how strong he actually needs to be on pavé.
Stage 1 is a very easy pavéstage, with only 1 *** every x km time losses for weaker pavé riders should be minimal.
Stage 2 is a very hard flat pavéstage: lots of 5 and 4, here depending on how it's ridden weaker riders could lose a lot. But.... it's highly highly highly unlikely that somebody like Willy V of r/Quick 85 pavé, yeah, but 49 mountain... Same for my top pavé riders, the highest mountain skills of them is...54. Gaurain the same, everybody the same so far. So, nobody really will normally have an interest in eliminating potential GC guys from other teams... be it 65 mountain with 76 flat (who wouldn't lose that much anyway) or be it 70 with 72 or so pavé...
Stage 3: Lots of siebkilometers before the final hard pavéstretch. Mountainsiebkilometers. Here classics will be there. Is almost more a classic stage with pavé than a pavéstage with hills.
Stage 4: Here some pavésiebs possible, but very far from the goal, and the one sector that is closer, is "weakened" by having a 6 shortly before... the decision will be the final, 3***6*** to be done 3 times.
Stage 5: The decisive stage, with loong pave sectors. But.. normally the flat guys shouldn't be there anymore for siebs in the last flat ***** sector, too easy to drop guys like Willy or Villa before that. Lots of mountains, pretty long ones. So.... siebs there will likely be by weaker pavé guys, and a fit 70-72 guy could not be dropped, depending on how weak the weaker guys are.... Talking about the sectors around km 160. Long mountain, not pavé, then the long last sector, which is up and down...
What I'm saying. No need for a super pavé team, actually IMO a team with lots of classics, is probably the best option here. Suffer a bit on stage 2, but after that should get time back. So... don't just look at Willy V. and the 80 Singes. And Gaurain... join, it's really pretty unpredictable and open.
The Apeteam
1 N. Buttu
2 B. Gong
3 T. Häfeli
4 F. Mollagholipour
5 H. Peterhans
6 P. Scodreanu
7 D. Sekiguchi
8 V. Villa
9 Z. Yamada
Goals, try a stage for Villa... but Willy doesn't really make me too confident for stage 2. And stage 1 might actually be too easy to have a big advantage... meaning Yamada, Häfeli, Mollagholipour can't drop anybody far, lots of people might come back, some might be better sprinters... 3 stages after.... leader will be decided later, but the guys with less than 50 pavé won't be it (unless really strange stuff happens) So.... JOIN, it's more of a 60-80/classic tour with lots of pavé than a pavétour IMO.
Right now only 7 teams... one of them the notorious multi ornyorny/delfini, this time he is sorry. More serious teams are: Petit Singe, Quick, Gaurain, Vagaderi, Liberty Lula and Cordoba
Atypical pavétour, with the mountains.. so it's not really important to have x strong pavériders. Just the right ones... and not sure how strong he actually needs to be on pavé.
Stage 1 is a very easy pavéstage, with only 1 *** every x km time losses for weaker pavé riders should be minimal.
Stage 2 is a very hard flat pavéstage: lots of 5 and 4, here depending on how it's ridden weaker riders could lose a lot. But.... it's highly highly highly unlikely that somebody like Willy V of r/Quick 85 pavé, yeah, but 49 mountain... Same for my top pavé riders, the highest mountain skills of them is...54. Gaurain the same, everybody the same so far. So, nobody really will normally have an interest in eliminating potential GC guys from other teams... be it 65 mountain with 76 flat (who wouldn't lose that much anyway) or be it 70 with 72 or so pavé...
Stage 3: Lots of siebkilometers before the final hard pavéstretch. Mountainsiebkilometers. Here classics will be there. Is almost more a classic stage with pavé than a pavéstage with hills.
Stage 4: Here some pavésiebs possible, but very far from the goal, and the one sector that is closer, is "weakened" by having a 6 shortly before... the decision will be the final, 3***6*** to be done 3 times.
Stage 5: The decisive stage, with loong pave sectors. But.. normally the flat guys shouldn't be there anymore for siebs in the last flat ***** sector, too easy to drop guys like Willy or Villa before that. Lots of mountains, pretty long ones. So.... siebs there will likely be by weaker pavé guys, and a fit 70-72 guy could not be dropped, depending on how weak the weaker guys are.... Talking about the sectors around km 160. Long mountain, not pavé, then the long last sector, which is up and down...
What I'm saying. No need for a super pavé team, actually IMO a team with lots of classics, is probably the best option here. Suffer a bit on stage 2, but after that should get time back. So... don't just look at Willy V. and the 80 Singes. And Gaurain... join, it's really pretty unpredictable and open.
The Apeteam
1 N. Buttu
2 B. Gong
3 T. Häfeli
4 F. Mollagholipour
5 H. Peterhans
6 P. Scodreanu
7 D. Sekiguchi
8 V. Villa
9 Z. Yamada
Goals, try a stage for Villa... but Willy doesn't really make me too confident for stage 2. And stage 1 might actually be too easy to have a big advantage... meaning Yamada, Häfeli, Mollagholipour can't drop anybody far, lots of people might come back, some might be better sprinters... 3 stages after.... leader will be decided later, but the guys with less than 50 pavé won't be it (unless really strange stuff happens) So.... JOIN, it's more of a 60-80/classic tour with lots of pavé than a pavétour IMO.