Austria - 15:00
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Austria - 15:00
A big group and a big climbers group, 14 85+ Climbers, sad that there are hardly any chances to beat the TT specialists somewhere. Today as expected Müller on Szolem. so i end up 6th, if i attack it might be a bit better but still hardly any chance to win when the best 85s are on my wheel and Müller wins from my backwheel. So Arsenal takes it with his 60TT guy and makes some seconds too. So he can be in yellow for tomorrow and with his second climber he might be able to defend it against early attacks, not sure he will be able to defend it in the end as the monsterious Kitzbühler Horn is waiting for us tomorrow. could become a hard finish in this field .
GC: we have a big favo here i think with Carl Carlson. He also got some seconds today (wasnt so clever to block it in the end but not my goal this GC). 24km TT. but really dont know who will be the next candidates. The climbers with 60TT most probably but do they get enough tomorrow on the Kitzbühler Horn to distance the 79climber Carlson? There are 7 very steep kms tomorrow and El Bergo has a good mountain puller. But Arsenal has a good Puller too for his 85 60TT guy. Will he try it tomorrow? Mafia too has a 85-60TT and a 85climber to pull him but it was his first race, dont know how he will ride. No Leupold around too. What can the TT specialists achieve? Aux with Rosi 59 climb and 89 TT, Heaviside with 59 - 85 and Peterson with 54-89 (but off today). They will for sure lose to much tomorrow on Carlson and maybe the 60TT Climbers but can they beat the other climbers? working together? dont really believe in a top 10 chance but maybe a try to get them at the top before the last Hill. No real classic rider team here that would have an interesst dropping us. We will see.
GC: we have a big favo here i think with Carl Carlson. He also got some seconds today (wasnt so clever to block it in the end but not my goal this GC). 24km TT. but really dont know who will be the next candidates. The climbers with 60TT most probably but do they get enough tomorrow on the Kitzbühler Horn to distance the 79climber Carlson? There are 7 very steep kms tomorrow and El Bergo has a good mountain puller. But Arsenal has a good Puller too for his 85 60TT guy. Will he try it tomorrow? Mafia too has a 85-60TT and a 85climber to pull him but it was his first race, dont know how he will ride. No Leupold around too. What can the TT specialists achieve? Aux with Rosi 59 climb and 89 TT, Heaviside with 59 - 85 and Peterson with 54-89 (but off today). They will for sure lose to much tomorrow on Carlson and maybe the 60TT Climbers but can they beat the other climbers? working together? dont really believe in a top 10 chance but maybe a try to get them at the top before the last Hill. No real classic rider team here that would have an interesst dropping us. We will see.
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Re: Austria - 15:00
Okay interessting situation now. Carlson lost 56seconds on some of the climbers including Mandelbrojt who stays in yellow now. Including the TT he is till more than a minute ahead of all the others but as he rides like that the next stages all seems possible. The weather in Austria is also bad at the moment, so it could become a downhill sieb that totally killes his chances as he doesnt have that big support, one classic but off most of the time. Behind him everybody close together. Still Tobler with best chances (58s on Mandelbrojt should be enough in the TT, if he doesnt lose much from now). Goti, Gereb all at more or less the same Level with Mandelbrojt now. For white BMG lost it yesterday. If Bergo dont let Ali ride for Carlson in the back he should win this easily and he is still in for the podium. Not that big climbs, he wont lose too much there and has 53TT.
General:
***Carlson
** Tobler, Mandelbrojt, Goti, Gereb
Points classement:
** Mandelbrojt, Rahir, another climber
* Sproles, Lathi, another escaper
Quite open still. Do the climbers get 2 Mountain top finishes it should be a climber. If Rahir gets trough at one of the as flat stages announced stages he should be able to get it too, + there are some intermediates on teh road and he is in an escape every day, maybe he is a bit in front because of that.
Climbers Classement:
*** DeLa Huerta
* another guy who wants it
Will be mostly decided today too at the Großglockner. If a climber wants it he will have it easy against Huerta for today but could be a hard race than
White:
*** Ali
* Demo
Team:
BMG
Good in mountain and the best TTist too so he should be able to get it
General:
***Carlson
** Tobler, Mandelbrojt, Goti, Gereb
Points classement:
** Mandelbrojt, Rahir, another climber
* Sproles, Lathi, another escaper
Quite open still. Do the climbers get 2 Mountain top finishes it should be a climber. If Rahir gets trough at one of the as flat stages announced stages he should be able to get it too, + there are some intermediates on teh road and he is in an escape every day, maybe he is a bit in front because of that.
Climbers Classement:
*** DeLa Huerta
* another guy who wants it
Will be mostly decided today too at the Großglockner. If a climber wants it he will have it easy against Huerta for today but could be a hard race than
White:
*** Ali
* Demo
Team:
BMG
Good in mountain and the best TTist too so he should be able to get it
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Re: Austria - 15:00
not to forget Corincinas Salimbene who is still somewhere between the climbers and Carlson
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Re: Austria - 15:00
Good analyse I think. Downhill and weather could be very important during this stage race. Yesterday, Bergo was lucky that i was going for the stage. Otherwise Carlson would have been in big trouble. Unfortunately, Sproles did not win the stage. But it was fun to work for the opportunity. So I missed the biggest chance for a stage win. Now I can relax,wait and see what happens...
Re: Austria - 15:00
After todays stage, the GC is very open. Actually I think, that either Mathe or Arsenal will make it in the end, Mathe my favorite because of his experience. The green jersey will probably go to Mandel as well. He will get a lot of points tomorrow again. Rahier will get some points too maybe, but he cant get that much of points.
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Re: Austria - 15:00
Actually its what i think too. Mandelbrojt vs. Tobler. My calculator tells me i need around 1:10 - 1:25. It depends mostly on form and luck in the TT, if nothing else happens tomorrow. I hope to get some seconds on Tobler tomorrow to get in the calculated time. Lets see if we get to work together for the stage tomorrow too if yes it would be fine for the green jersey. Gereb for sure still with little chances. Gotti should be out for the win now too. Lets hope for good training now
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Re: Austria - 15:00
FL will be there for Team Bearclaw tomorrow.
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Re: Austria - 15:00
br better give me a better TT formula, in best case: one where i win on saturday
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Re: Austria - 15:00
So today is the important day. Mandelbrojt in yellow since the second stage here, long time. Maybe he can safe it over the TT today. Would be fantastic. He seems to be the favorite to keep it but still just a few seconds he could lose due to bad luck and its gone. My calculation for top 5:
1. 0:00 Mandelbrojt
2+0:05 Tobler
3+0:14 Ali
4+0:21 Sailimbene
5+0:28 Gereb
Very very close group, lets see if it ends like that
1. 0:00 Mandelbrojt
2+0:05 Tobler
3+0:14 Ali
4+0:21 Sailimbene
5+0:28 Gereb
Very very close group, lets see if it ends like that
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Re: Austria - 15:00
ok Ali off so out
Salimbene at +0:09 so a lot faster than calculated (huch)
Tobler at +0:01 so a bit faster too (formala a bit more for the TT guys, and he lost a lot in the last 8km, many 2seconds there)
Gereb at +0:26 very close
Salimbene at +0:09 so a lot faster than calculated (huch)
Tobler at +0:01 so a bit faster too (formala a bit more for the TT guys, and he lost a lot in the last 8km, many 2seconds there)
Gereb at +0:26 very close
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