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Autum classics 2025

Post by team fl » Mon Aug 04, 2025 9:37 am

GT season is over (Vuelta boycott lives on!), so it's time for the Autumn Classics! The first has already finished, which means that Team FL is in its lazy mode again. Anyway, here are the results and upcoming races. Only cat.4 and more will be mentions, many lower categorised classics left out, and the WC of course. Races that are not in the calendar yet are set the same category as last year, without anticipation of their real categories set by the calendar guys.

02.08.2025: San Sebastian (Cat. 5)
11h: Edward Masters (Bearclaw Cycling)
15h: Pekka Kuutti (Black-Star)
18h: Murodbek Makhamadzhonov (Tukhtahuaev)
22h: Lassi Kinnunen (ATB - Racing)

17.08.2025: Cyclassics Hamburg (Cat. 5)
11h: Adel Hajsafi (Hoefs Cycling Team)
15h: Raphael Schlattinger (Hansa)
19h: Brendon Hoyte (Bugatti)
21h: Carlos AlvaradoQuesada (Chemnitz Pro Cycling Team)

31.08.2025: Bretagne Classic (Cat. 5)

Bretagne's rollercoaster race. Something for Classics with sprint or riders that fit well in early or late esapes on such a profile. Outcome might be similar to Hamburg, but it's more up and down.

12.09.2025: GP Québec (Cat. 5)

1st race of the Canadian duo. The group of favourites might range from sprinters to classics with sprints to very strong classics that could attack on the 4-4 punch in the end. Or on any km before.

14.09.2025: GP Montréal (Cat. 5)

2nd race of the Canadian duo, almost the same but a bit harder with that 9% climb in the laps. So here it's usually a strong classics with sprint or a late attacker. The profile offers a lot for attacks before the final lap though.

04.10.2025: Giro dell' Emilia (Cat. 4)

The autumn season in Italy starts with Emilia, a race for the climbers. There could be a lot cat. 3 and cat. 2 races mentioned here that complete the Italian autumn season, but hey, they're below cat. 4 and so they're not.

07.10.2025: Tre Valli Varesine (Cat. 4)

In its beginnings a race for climbers as well, the current profile is more for strong classics or even these 80-70 guys (Fürst!). But then again, the opportunties start way before, maybe at km 1.

09.10.2025: Gran Piemonte (Cat. 4)

Again, an interesting race with many possible outcomes. From early escape, to bunch sprint to reduced sprint to a classics attack. Everything seems possible at Gran Piemonte.

11.10.2025: Il Lombardia (Cat. 6)

5th and last monument of 2025. One of the many accomplishments by Stefano Benni. What a rider. What a race. 69 (!) teams have won it already, 15 teams even more than once, Alkworld 8 times. Let's see if we get new winners. I wouldn't mind winning it again though :).

12.10.2025: Paris - Tours (Cat. 5)

The race after Il Lombardia. How did it get cat. 5? Who cares anyway. But it's the only autumn classic with significant pavé in it, although not being a pure pavé race technically.
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Re: Autum classics 2025

Post by team fl » Mon Aug 25, 2025 11:53 am

Cyclassics are over. Not much interest to post something here, so the usual stats stuff.

17.08.2025: Cyclassics Hamburg (Cat. 5)

11h: Adel Hajsafi (Hoefs Cycling Team)
15h: Raphael Schlattinger (Hansa)
19h: Brendon Hoyte (Bugatti)
21h: Carlos AlvaradoQuesada (Chemnitz Pro Cycling Team)

Alex couldn't win the afternoon edition unfortuantely after he chose to sprint at 300m (he got new glasses, now he thinks the finish line is closer than it really is...). Anyway, happy the afternoon got the only real sprint edition.

Next up is the Bretagne Classic (Cat. 5) on Sunday, 31 August 2025. Also there, a sprinter win is possible, although even less likely than at the Cyclassics.
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Re: Autum classics 2025

Post by Robyklebt » Mon Aug 25, 2025 2:46 pm

Kebede was cheated out of his win by a headache and oversleeping!
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Re: Autum classics 2025

Post by Robyklebt » Tue Oct 07, 2025 8:10 pm

Good thread, I always whine when people don't participate and thus slowly and slowly keep killing the game further and further. So I better do, even if of course the usual suspects will accuse me of toxicity. You know who your are.

Emilia: Makhamadzhonov favorite, Donkey in group. More as a relay station for Iskanderov later, or an early sieb with tempo, but in the end was just as a loader between San Luca climbs. Could follow the first Makhamadzhonov attack expected that. Thought second one would be critical... but that's because I didn't think. Of course I can follow. Anyway, last laps, Donks goes ahead a bit with Lüthi Iskanderov, never looks really dangerous, then in the second last lap Makhamadzhonov and Poggiolini, Poggiolini comes back, then attacks, could have been dangerous but in the end in the back there was tempo from the classic group that came from the third Tukh attacking. Last 2 km, Makhamadzhonov goes. Dixon follows. But Zuk is 2" ahead. Argh. Should simply have attacked myself and hope to land 1" ahead of Zuk. Most likely nothing changes though, same time, next km I'm followed and lose the sprint. Like this gained 1" back in the last km, needed 2".
1 Zuk
2 Dixon 1"
3 Makhamadzhonov 4"
Great success to beat Makhamadzhonov.... but only for second. Which is sort of ok, but it's highly annoying that I simply assumed like the last idiot, instead of thinking for 5". Would have ridden a bit differently probably, chances are the end result doesn't change, but still, at least I would have gotten second knowing what I'm doing :lol: Iskanderov 10th.

Next, Agostoni: First race of the trittico lombardo, the one it took me longest to win, and when I did I think it was a mini-group.
All for Kebede

Incredibly passive race, nothing happening at all, nobody challenging the hill sprinters at all. Km 1 block by CC, a Bitibert going, gets 1'19" advantage and stops. Then nothing until km 89, a sieb probably by Uru. Everything back together, race started at the last Colle Brianza, on Lissolo the hill sprinters temporarily dropped, came back easily, tempo by CC-Donks-Medical. Hm, lots of Donkey I'm seeing in the replay, but then I had 5 riders so...Anyway, easy hill sprint. And Kebede fails again. Kind of overthought it this time... Kebede 78, Mavric and Jungo 75. Both could make a train. But there's Linn with a train, they could put their no 2 (Redondo 65 and Mersch 64) there, while following Kebede. Who then would hang somewhere trainless... so I go on LInn! CC with the train... same pace as Linn, when the second ones go he gains... went at 250. Should have gone at 300 maybe? But ok, doesn't change much I guess, there they were still roughly equal. Anyway I go, win less than hoped, perfect for Mavric to get my wheel, which he does and wins easily from there, Kebede only 4th being overtaken by Mavric's followers too. Argh. Bad sprint, but hanging on Mavric (better train than Med normally, so more likely) is a risk too, that hang on LInn with Redondo tactic looked decent too. And if I get Mavric's wheel (of course had forgotten that Jungo gets it more likely) somehow... CC can't do a standard sprint since I'm 3 stronger, that is a difference. And if I don't get the wheel (didn't even think about it at the time) of course I'm too far back most likely, but can do an early sprint... went for the Linn train, turned out to be the wrong decision. Bah

Bernocchi: Only cat 2... actually IMO more something for sprinters. Decent teams (with decent riders I was corrected) that ride for a flat sprint IMO get it more often than not. And indeed I thought I had taken Toulet along, hadn't, so ok for Kebede.
Escape, so Donkey chases early, well, then for reasons unknown (possibly even to Bitibert (ayayay, toxic Donks) Bitibert starts chasing. Ok, with none of the flat sprint teams showing intent of riding at this point took that help with pleasure. Basically thanks to Bitibert the escape was never a danger. Flat sprinters... A first attempt by Medical to have them work with their flat guys at 5 laps? Donkey wasn't happy and chased with his flat riders. IMO 4 from the end was better. And no Onkelinx there was very bad. Everybody back, thought going at 4 to go, changed to 3. Helpers dropped, 9" back, Taka riding in the back, went out (by sectrick he said later) nobody in tempo, up to 49" That was probably the decisive moment. Gipfel, WZF and Nash felt they didn't need to ride it seems (toxic again), ok, maybe hoped to profit from Taka riding further, I do that sometimes too. Anyway, helpers far back, far from ideal. Riding with Onkelinx, next lap Roy and Bele take over, sprinters dropped, with their helpers far back, Bugatti sprinter with Pinder dropped too, Cabassi there too, fortuntely for us he didn't ride, might come back, only 9" again. And then we can't bring Roy and Bele over the last hill. Big advantage before the last climb, over one minute, so we kept Roy and Bele. Bring it home, In the end 30". Sprint, in a way I did the same one as in Agostoni, not hang on the other sprinters (but this time none of the sprinters had a train, mine was dead, Ganambarr...) but on a strong train with weak sprinter, Tukh. Weirdly nobody hung on me or on Tukh... Kinnen though, so Medical could change and get the wheel. Then 150 and risk Jungo overtaking me? But he already spent a bit getting the wheel, thought could probably keep him away. Or 100 and risk the block? OK 100, immediately regretted it, Elmas from behind Jungo went at 150... argh. So 100, as expected blocked, but seeing how far I went, I actually was reasonably confident that it would be enough... and it was! Uff... 150 would have been ok too, if Jungo overtakes me, blah, but after all I'm pretty used to not winning, would have managed to overcome the disappointment.... Winning is better though. Lucky win in many senses. Bitibert's tempo certainly helped a lot and was completely senseless. The 3 sprinters sleeping in the back when the helpers were dropped the same. 40" lost it seems (seems too much actually, but since c4f right now is refusing to work for me I just write what I wrote yesterday, might have been 30") Bugatti not chasing with Pinder 2 laps from the end, lucky too. But not sure what I would have done in his situation either. Because they will get dropped again, and no An hurts. And the sprint for once went perfectly, didn't fuck it up. Lucky that the others started in a bad position, maybe lucky that Jungo tried to go where it was blocked in the last 50 meters, but don't think he could overtake me there.
Finally Kebede!

Tre Valli Varesine: No Taiaroa, that probably explains that catastrophe today. Brrrr. Group with 6 teams goes, in the back tempo by SWP and OMG.. Problem was that nobody else helped, the race IMO was quite open. Not only the 80-70 that in the end did it, but also classics had their chance. Dagestan and Cottbus with 80-70 but in escape didn't help. And of course riding with Svahn and Czajka forever didn't help. At some point then OMG took a break (but he rode a lot too, hadn't realized that his break was rather short during the race) and SWP still with Svahn...lots of time lost there Why not use Skutin? Useless later too, ride with him, mountains with Svahn to keep him there, rest Skutin? Skutin came in when the advantage went up to 5'29", brought it down to under 5', then Allagen rode, brought to almost 4',. leaders in front start, goes up again. Skutin just too late, one lap earlier and it's ok. But again, it wasn't only SWP and OMG with chances, others, Allagen, also the classics with +/- 60 sprint like Sastre, Lüthi, Bougault had their chances too I think. But none of us thought about helping, probably waiting for the others to start.
Last 8%, climber in tempo, logic... Donkey stares.. fighting in? Nooooo, I'll come back, others probably have it off too. No, only a few dumbasses. Donkey, Gipfel, possibly Allagen (but his might have been dropped anyway) Logic to sieb there, get rid of Pizzaballa and possibly Belaid, on a 6% at least Belaid won't be dropped. And Pizzaballa... .depending on form an energy maybe not either. Donkey 19" back with his leaders and his hobby Kebede (wasn't seriouly riding for him, but who else to load, he was going to get dropped on the 6% anyway but until then, why not) That was it for the Donkey, came back to 11" before the final climb thanks to Allagen in large part, lost only 1" in the 6" Attack by the 80-70 plus Bak, 76-81 16" ahead of the group of the losers who rode up to the rest of the first peloton there. In the end 13" back. Bah. And completely fucked up the sprint too, had Uru still helping Kebede, so instead of a Gallego-Lüthi-Kebede train I was stuck somewhere in the pampa... Fitting end to a badly ridden race. Well, ridden ok till that last 8, it wasn't really up to me as third guy to join I feel, first Allagen for Belaid (depending on form he should survive the 8, with fighting and Pizzaballa as I said IMO not hopeless) and Gipfel (only one more sprint, but a bit more mountain (pretty irrelevant) but with Papillon a great blocker for the 6 5 combi) In front, nice group, went in with leaders early, roughly 75km from the end. Good management too, not only the peloton failed. Very even in mountain, a bit less in sprint, but 53-59 is still ok, Pichler turned out to be the strongest, attack on 6%, nobody could follow, brings it up to 12" till the end with his flat. 42" before the 80-70 group with SWP and OMG.
Donkey really really stupid, in retrospect not sure why I didn't put in fighting. Well, because I'm an idiot (toxicity again) climber in, need to fight. And IMO Lüthi stays, Gallego hopefully too. Yeah, Papillon-Bougault 2" back, Lüthi 3", Gallego 4". Pretty sure they all stay, the ones a bit behind up to Belaid at 6" probably too. Uru at 7" was sure he'd drop anyway... wasn't fit anymore anyway at this point, had changed to helping at some point and maybe even rode a km somewhere? But who knows. Just stupid. Then to win, of course difficult, but IMO a block with Lüthi on the 6, tempo with Gallego on the 5 3... can be close, following IMO made no sense, couldn't follow anyway. And then it's a pretty open sprint, with Belaid there we have quite ok chances to get the attackers, as in 80-70, but 65 sprint, without him lower chances, but worth a try. Papillon might have followed if he hadn't had to ride up again too though, with him blocking would be much better. But why expect the logical thing from a guy who thinks he needs to sectrick in and out of tempo in a group with 2 of his riders 2 then 1" behind the peloton.... Big failure today by Donks anyway, how can you be stupid enough not to put in fighting there?

In general... won 1, did ok in 2 others, one big failure. Won the one I care about least.... 5th win, seems I'm record winner there now, at least something. I'd much rather win Agostoni though... but ok.

Now prepare for the next ones, don't care about tomorrow, then another 4 worthwhile ones, Vendée a bit less, but still rather win it than not!
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Re: Autum classics 2025

Post by Tukhtahuaev » Wed Oct 08, 2025 1:16 pm

Thanks for reminding me that this thread exists.

Behind Lombardia Emilia was of course the biggest goal for Makhamadzhonov, so I was left very disappointed. Can't really complain much about others there. Only that Zuk had Emilia form to begin with. But also doesn't look like a bad decision now that he won.
Kind of expected the form difference early on, so should have changed my strategy. Attack with Piskun/Poggiolini only on 188 and hope that no other climber hangs (which proved to be the case): Would have had over 30s gap with Poggiolini alone in front. In that case Zuk/Dixon have to ride to or Poggiolini is through and if they ride, Makhamadzhonov is stronger for the end.
That plan could of course also fail horribly, if other climbers hang. Makhamadzhonov of course can only follow one of them, so I chickened out of the move.

Agostoni and Bernocchi were not really targets and I just hoped for hillsprints where Karatay could get lucky and get some decent results.
Agostoni went much better than expected and almost made up for Emilia. Many classics with similar sprint and a bad sprint from bergwerk gave Karatay the perfect launchpad to win.
Bernocchi quite boring. Thought it would be a sprint, luckily it wasn't. No chance to win against hillsprinters, so just did my train to maximise the result and block them as much as possible. In the end P4 and P6, much better than expected and good money made

Tre Valli is starting to become one of my favourite races. Makhamadzhonov and Piskun as co leaders, but difficult to get a win without better sprint against FL and Obk with their 80-70. Really slow race, group almost went through. Should have tried siebing a bit earlier, but FL with good control made it difficult to find the right moment. In the end the Fürst attack not strong enough to go through, Obk going way too early with Dyrhaug and Narrenparty the lucky guy on his wheel. P3 for Makhamadzhonov and P4 for Piskun are good, but hoped for a little bit more


Saturday finally the big day. Of course my main target for this month. Makhamadzhonov needs to win this one to catapult him above Tarabesh in my subjective ranking

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Post by Tukhtahuaev » Thu Oct 09, 2025 11:08 am

Another podium, but no win at Gran Piemonte. Alk with a very strong classic team, but no one with good sprint made it clear that he would be on the offensive early on. Race went pretty much as I thought it would go. Allagen with a farmer, unfortunately didn't manage to get as many helpers over the hills as I had hoped, but still fine.
Alk action started at km 106 with a strong sieb, then another sieb and an attack on the next climb. I knew it was coming, thought I was hanging on the right riders, but my classics were just a little too weak. Perfect situation for Alk after that. He could suck in front because Belaid is a much stronger sprinter. If they go through, he has good chances there, if they don't Romberg probably the strongest behind.
Then the last mountain and Romberg the only classic to keep up, so pretty clear who was going to win. I had given up all hope behind, but OL with Stonkus and Piskun attacked behind and Alk just let us come back. Stonkus then right behind Romberg in the sprint and tries his only chance to put Romberg under pressure and goes from 150m, but not strong enough. So Romberg wins, Piskun gives me my 4th podium within a week in 2nd, and Stonkus 3rd.
Very happy with this one. Didn't expect much before the race

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Re: Autum classics 2025

Post by team fl » Thu Oct 09, 2025 11:22 am

Ha, almost forgot about this thread that I opened myself. Thanks for bringing it up again. Maybe I forgot because the Team FL performance wasn't good so far. 3rd at San Sebastian, 2nd in Hamburg. That's it. The Win at GP Industria & Artigianato doesn't count as it's only cat. 3. Still, the updated statistics (without Gran Piemonte):

02.08.2025: San Sebastian (Cat. 5)
11h: Edward Masters (Bearclaw Cycling)
15h: Pekka Kuutti (Black-Star)
18h: Murodbek Makhamadzhonov (Tukhtahuaev)
22h: Lassi Kinnunen (ATB - Racing)

17.08.2025: Cyclassics Hamburg (Cat. 5)
11h: Adel Hajsafi (Hoefs Cycling Team)
15h: Raphael Schlattinger (Hansa)
19h: Brendon Hoyte (Bugatti)
21h: Carlos AlvaradoQuesada (Chemnitz Pro Cycling Team)

31.08.2025: Bretagne Classic (Cat. 5)
10h: Alimzhan Islambekov (SouthWest Packers)
15h: Asaia Sapele (Beullenscycling)
18h: David Alfaro (Alkworld)
21h: Kasper Woolley (Bearclaw Cycling)

12.09.2025: GP Québec (Cat. 5)
09h: Osvaldo Romberg (Alkworld)
14h: Natalija Nedaschkiwska (stevens)
18h: Artem Melnick (SouthWest Packers)
21h: Thanasis Phaiax (Crazy Vikings)

14.09.2025: GP Montréal (Cat. 5)
11h: Sergey Bazarov (Marlhou)
15h: Omar Chibani (Elaska)
19h: André Trousselier (Alkworld)
22h: Thanasis Phaiax (Crazy Vikings)

04.10.2025: Giro dell' Emilia (Cat. 4)
10h: Matias Toykkola (Black-Star)
14h: Kamila Zuk (Schappy)
19h: Jeff Smart (bergwerk)
22h Aurora Aguilar (TDMLuxembourg)

07.10.2025: Tre Valli Varesine (Cat. 4)
10h: Tom Trost (Narrenparty)
15h: Amadeus Pichler (Vikings Berlin)
18h: Kamila Zuk (Schappy)
20h: Tatiana Shmayluk (Felsenland)
22h: Yun Pyon (Crazy Vikings)


-> Next to come: Il Lombardia, the last monument of 2025!
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Post by cataracs » Thu Oct 09, 2025 11:29 am

team fl wrote:
Thu Oct 09, 2025 11:22 am
Ha, almost forgot about this thread that I opened myself. Thanks for bringing it up again. Maybe I forgot because the Team FL performance wasn't good so far. 3rd at San Sebastian, 2nd in Hamburg. That's it. The Win at GP Industria & Artigianato doesn't count as it's only cat. 3. Still, the updated statistics (without Gran Piemonte):

02.08.2025: San Sebastian (Cat. 5)
11h: Edward Masters (Bearclaw Cycling)
15h: Pekka Kuutti (Black-Star)
18h: Murodbek Makhamadzhonov (Tukhtahuaev)
22h: Lassi Kinnunen (ATB - Racing)

17.08.2025: Cyclassics Hamburg (Cat. 5)
11h: Adel Hajsafi (Hoefs Cycling Team)
15h: Raphael Schlattinger (Hansa)
19h: Brendon Hoyte (Bugatti)
21h: Carlos AlvaradoQuesada (Chemnitz Pro Cycling Team)

31.08.2025: Bretagne Classic (Cat. 5)
10h: Alimzhan Islambekov (SouthWest Packers)
15h: Asaia Sapele (Beullenscycling)
18h: David Alfaro (Alkworld)
21h: Kasper Woolley (Bearclaw Cycling)

12.09.2025: GP Québec (Cat. 5)
09h: Osvaldo Romberg (Alkworld)
14h: Natalija Nedaschkiwska (stevens)
18h: Artem Melnick (SouthWest Packers)
21h: Thanasis Phaiax (Crazy Vikings)

14.09.2025: GP Montréal (Cat. 5)
11h: Sergey Bazarov (Marlhou)
15h: Omar Chibani (Elaska)
19h: André Trousselier (Alkworld)
22h: Thanasis Phaiax (Crazy Vikings)

04.10.2025: Giro dell' Emilia (Cat. 4)
10h: Matias Toykkola (Black-Star)
14h: Kamila Zuk (Schappy)
19h: Jeff Smart (bergwerk)
22h Aurora Aguilar (TDMLuxembourg)

07.10.2025: Tre Valli Varesine (Cat. 4)
10h: Tom Trost (Narrenparty)
15h: Amadeus Pichler (Vikings Berlin)
18h: Kamila Zuk (Schappy)
20h: Tatiana Shmayluk (Felsenland)
22h: Yun Pyon (Crazy Vikings)


-> Next to come: Il Lombardia, the last monument of 2025!
The WC is missing!

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Post by team fl » Thu Oct 09, 2025 11:33 am

The WC is not an autumn classic. It is the WC. Totally different topic. Could have been an own thread. But wasn't important enough I guess.

Fun fact: Did you know that WC is also the abbreviation for Water Closet?
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Post by team fl » Thu Oct 09, 2025 5:11 pm

Ha! And there it is, the autumn classics win for Team FL. The Fürst was the luckiest in the final sprint at Gran Piemonte. With this victory, he follows the footsteps for Team FL cult rider and TD Hugo Marxer (btw. what's going on there? Will the legend continue?!).
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Post by Robyklebt » Sat Oct 11, 2025 5:52 pm

Lombardia.. bad bad, the monument were I perform the worst. Ok, Flanders I never win either, 1 win like Lombardia, but generally I have much better riders for Lombardia than Flanders. And 1 win only. A few 2nd and third places, lately at least had managed top 10. This year not even that again...

Worked well until the top of Ganda. Tempo with Dixon (And Bugatti with Sabo at the same time) Lüthi one of the few guys fighting, stays, Lengani off, so is behind, Sabo pulls him up, Red, so Lengani keeps dropping, I go blue and stay a bit ahead and Lüthi most likely there wasn't fighting, even if he had it on. Caught before the last km of the climb, Sabo red, Lüthi stays, uff. Papillon dropped 2" without fighting, then goes in too late. So Lengani and Lüthi the only classics in front. Clear what happens, Lengani at some point atacks, Lüthi and the other 80-70 follow, Lüthi doesn't ride, Lengani has to, should be enough to go through. Then with Iskanderov who actually managed to follow and Lüthi I have 2 outsiders, dropped on 8 for Lüthi, hope to come back (but difficult) Iskanderov should stay if it's riding, not attacks, but not enough downhill for the sprint. And what happens? Donkey doesn't change following... attack into nothing. Argh. Race basically over for me then. Ok, Bugatti went earlier than I thought.. but probably wouldn't have managed to actualyl put following on later either, too stupid. 55" advantage after the Lengani attack... yeah, probably quite a few guys follow, since Iskanderov could, maybe Kutti on Davis as well, we'll never know.. but I had to hang there.
In the end the favorite Bugatti (but not the only one, but would have said he's the favorite before the race too, Black Star (great offliner performances, not that he probably would have ridden online, but that was an enormous amount of offlining) Nash with Barbosa, Turauskas, too little sprint but if he gets away.. ) won. Deserved win. Expected non-win by the Donkeys, bu the egg on my face wasn't necessary.
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Re: Autum classics 2025

Post by Tukhtahuaev » Sun Oct 12, 2025 8:35 am

Lombardia won, so autumn classics are a success. Was very nervous about Alk with Romberg, who would surely be stronger than all of my classics.
Poke went all in early with a big attack, but Hitdorf didn't like it and chased hard. Good for me, who could control with only Rakhmonaliev until km 96.
After that I started the siebing. Toktybay stronger than half of the peloton, so I had 8 riders for the next 60km, while everyone else in peloton with less. From that point on it was about going as slow as possible without inviting any moves to save energy and not make Makhamadzhonov suffer in the flat.
Around Zambla Alta Alk with his first try with Arlt and Brunier, but managed to neutralise it. Cost me 2 more helpers, but still in the best position. Another try before Ganda, but no one riding together with Alk and he gave up. Ganda then the decisive part. Romberg obviously the strongest classic gained 29s in the uphill, so a good window to attack for him, but no way for him to go early as there were still a few guys able to follow in that case. In the end managed to catch up with my classics again and could easily control until the final climb.
There I just had to hope that Makhamadzhonov is strong enough to attack and stay in front, which he barely did by 1s to the next climbers group and only 2s to Romberg. Romberg the most impressive rider today, but just not strong enough to win.
In the end 2 wins, 1 2nd and 2 3rd places for me. Very happy with that. Paris Tours still coming, but highly unlikely I get anything out of it.

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Re: Autum classics 2025

Post by team fl » Sun Oct 12, 2025 9:43 am

No frust for the Fürst at Lombardia. After winning Gran Piemonte, he doubles down in autumn with Lombardia. It seems the firing of Alex has released his full potential. Maybe Alex was the fallen leave that was needed for the Classica delle foglie morte? Anyway, nice race at 18h. The Panda Express went full out and challenged the favourites in the peloton early. Good chase in the peloton (together with stevens, Elaska and at some point OMG), late classics attack, a panic moment when the Fürst did not fight at the Colle Aperto, and a lucky sprint. So again, as for Tukhtahuaev, the autumn classics campaign a full success.

But wow, Mudorbek now triple GT AND monument winner! One of the all time great achievements before the win at Lombardia (San Sebastian already in the pocket) and now even more impressive. GW!
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