The Real Giro 2025 Afternoon

[cataracs]

I don't see any reason why the clear GC favorite going in escape would be a bad thing. GC teams also have the right to win stages, I'm not going to sit in peloton everyday and watch others win (like last year). if anything it's bad for me and my GC chances.

But also, riders skills wise, Badenburg 400% favo. Can't see where Firiam is able to win 4 minutes on him. And with Tukh the top sucker in my list being a cofavo aswell, I don't plan to cooperate at all in this peloton.

I don't know CreditPommes, but if he's always going to be riding like stage1, then GW Fürst.

Favourite check

Maglia Rosa
***** Baptiste Firiam (r TAKA), Reggy Badenburg (Credit Pommes)
**** Murodbek Makhamadzhonov (Tukhtahuaev), Émile Lachance (Big Donkey)
*** Alex Dixon (Big Donkey), Tom Trost (Narrenparty), Henri Schölle (HenrunCycling 6)
** Crescenzo Poggiolini (Tukhtahuaev), Liu Bei (Dreizehn), Fürchtegott Fürst (Team FL), Rodrigo Macedo (Wolfpack Cycling)
* Paolo Mori (r TAKA), Alexis Art (Romoc Riders), Santiago Tabarez (Tornado Team), Michael Cuche (Tornado Team), Howard Carpendale (Dreizehn)

This must be the worse favo check you ever made FL. Should be more like this:
*****Reggy Badenburg (Credit Pommes)
****
***
** Baptiste Firiam (r TAKA), Fürchtegott Fürst (Team FL)
* Murodbek Makhamadzhonov (Tukhtahuaev)

[flockmastoR]

Very funny start here. Go Mori

[drei.zehn]

As there is no favourite check in time, here's mine:

Favourite check

Maglia Rosa
***** Baptiste Firiam (r TAKA), Reggy Badenburg (Credit Pommes)
**** Murodbek Makhamadzhonov (Tukhtahuaev), Émile Lachance (Big Donkey)
*** Alex Dixon (Big Donkey), Tom Trost (Narrenparty), Henri Schölle (HenrunCycling 6)
** Crescenzo Poggiolini (Tukhtahuaev), Liu Bei (Dreizehn), Fürchtegott Fürst (Team FL), Rodrigo Macedo (Wolfpack Cycling)
* Paolo Mori (r TAKA), Alexis Art (Romoc Riders), Santiago Tabarez (Tornado Team), Michael Cuche (Tornado Team), Howard Carpendale (Dreizehn)

Firiam vs. Badenburg is the duel of the afternoon Giro, with mainly Makhmadzhonov and two Donkeys lurking. The rest only with very little chances, but it's three weeks and a lot may happen.

Maglia Ciclamino
*** Alex Alailefaleula (Team FL),
** Gianpaolo Cabassi (Gipfelstuermer), Thijs Toornstra (Romoc Riders), Dietmar Barth (Narrenparty)
* Debretsion Kebede (Big Donkey), Rafael Andrade (Dreizehn), Guy Walters (Wolfpack Cycling)

Maglia Azzurra
*** Baptiste Firiam (r TAKA)
** Murodbek Makhamadzhonov (Tukhtahuaev)
* any other riders who really wants it

Maglia Bianca
*** Liu Bei (Dreizehn)
** Santiago Tabarez (Tornado Team)
* a surprise rider

Team classement
*** Big Donkey
** Tukhtahuaev, r TAKA
* a surprise team

Thanks for doing it
…even when you have half the field on your list of favorites

[drei.zehn]

Badenburg will grab the Maglia Rosa in the ITT tomorrow most likely…

Cov on a normal day just loses a minute tomorrow. Don’t know what its like when he starts with ~800 energy

[Robyklebt]

Unfit, loses more, my guess is Reggy in rosa later today.

GC:

Badenburg vs Firiam vs the rest really, I'd put Makhamadzhonov further back.

More like
***** Badenburg-Firiam
****Makhamadzhonov
***
** Lachance, Dixon, Trost
* Poggiolini, Fürst

With Makhamadzhonov really being a 3.5 star guy...

It's a duel for the most part, with Makhamadzhonov hoping to profit, the rest further back hoping to profit too.

Badenburg will gain around 4' on Firiam. in the TT And a further 1'20" on the others. All roughly. Ok, Trost 53 a bit less, but the rest is 50 (some 48 but doesn't matter, 50)
Can Firiam get these 4' back? Taka is already saying no, but we ride to see if it is possible... 90 vs 81, Firiam might have to give up the stage on some days, and instead of attacking just ride and carry Makhamadzhonov to stage wins, after all he is quite a bit back. Hard for Makhamadzhonov to gain 1'20" vs a guy with more mountain.
The arcade stage of course changes things a bit more, between Tukh and Taka not much to 0.3, form can make that difference. Of course if Firiam is back, Tukh then has the better team so there could be a difference. On the other hand Firiam has masses of others behind him too, Lachance for example. As for Reggy, the pavé is good, the flat not, and the flat counts a lot in those ** (that should be * and still siebable in some places) I don't trust Reggy there, also the team, would be very surprised if Reggy gains time on Makhamadzhonov.

Managers: Job looks easier for Credit Pommes, he doesn't have much experience riding for such a leader, but he has experience riding with inferior climbers Meaning, wait, defend, strike in the right moment, not having to do, or wanting to do the action, Krausz and co did that in the past years. So for Pommes the changes not big, but of course more responsability. The change might be bigger for Taka, he likes the mountain defender, which usually on most routes Firiam would be, here he has to adapt to the role of attacker, finding the right mix between dropping Badenburg while not letting others profit from it too much. Reg a bit of a problem for him, and the fact that Mori is not really stronger than Stoel. And that the obvious stages where he can just ride up are few... 1, or maybe 1.5. The rest he will have to find ways to attack Reggy.

[team fl]

Stage 2, first ITT, 14 km, but not completely flat. Stefano Tzimas (Narrenparty) was the expected winner, but what happened with the GC guys? Reggy Badenburg (CreditPommes) missed the Maglia Rosa by 25 seconds. That means that the winner from stage 1, Temptation Coventry, will still wear the leader jersey at the start tomorrow. Self-proclaimed non-favourite Baptiste Firiam (r TAKA) finished 5th today and lost 1 min 3 secs against Badenburg, 1 min 44 secs to Tzimas. The Fürst (Team FL) finished 2 secs behind Firiam, accompagnied by two team mates, Lucifero and Stenberg. The next GC guys were Tom Trost (Tornado Team) at 1 min 57 and Murodbek Makhamadzhonov (Tukhtahuaev) at 2 min 11 secs, trailed by Émile Lachance by 1 sec. But to have an overall picture, here the statistics:

Stage 2:

01. 00:00:00 Stefanos Tzimas (Narrenparty)
02. 00:00:41 Reggy Badenburg (CreditPommes)
03. 00:00:47 Anderson Appollo (Romoc Riders)
04. 00:01:42 Sergey Kriushenko (Tornado Team)
05. 00:01:44 Baptiste Firiam (r TAKA)
06. 00:01:45 Liu Bei (Dreizehn)
07. 00:01:46 Fürchtegott Fürst (Team FL)
08. 00:01:47 Sten Stenberg (Team FL)
09. 00:01:51 Lautaro Lucifero (Team FL)
10. 00:01:55 Yannick Hoebeke (Romoc Riders)

Maglia Rosa

01. 00:00:00 Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)
02. 00:00:25 Reggy Badenburg (CreditPommes)
03. 00:00:39 Anderson Apollo (Romoc Riders
04. 00:00:55 Camille Roy (Big Donkey)
05. 00:01:18 Fürchtegott Fürst (Team FL)
06. 00:01:28 Baptiste Firiam (r TAKA)
07. 00:01:34 Sergey Kriushenko (Tornado Team)
08. 00:01:37 Liu Bei (Dreizehn)
09. 00:01:37 Sten Stenberg (Team FL)
10. 00:01:37 Tom Trost (Narrenparty)
11. 00:01:43 Santiago Tabarez (Tornado Team)
...
14. 00:01:52 Alexis Art (Romoc Riders)
15. 00:01:54 Crescenzo Poggiolini (Tukhtahuaev)
16. 00:01:55 Murodbek Makhamadzhonov (Tukhtahuaev)
17. 00:01:56 Émile Lachance (Big Donkey)
18. 00:02:00 Alex Dixon (Big Donkey)
...
26. 00:02:14 Paolo Mori (r TAKA)
...
31. 00:02:55 Henri Schölle (HenrunCycling 6)

Maglia Ciclamino

028 - Tim Trost (Narrenparty)
026 - Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)
025 - Benno Gooddy (Dreizehn)

Maglia Azzurra

018 - Anderson Apollo (Romoc Riders)
013 - Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)
013 - Itachi Uchida (r TAKA)

Maglia Bianca

01. 00:00:39 Anderson Apollo (Romoc Riders)
02. 00:01:34 Sergey Kriushenko (Tornado Team)
03. 00:01:37 Liu Bei (Dreizehn)

* will not be eligible for the final Maglia Bianca

Team classement

01. 00:00:00 Narrenparty
02. 00:00:19 Dreizehn
03. 00:00:34 Big Donkey


Stage wins by riders:
1 - Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)
1 - Stefano Tzimas (Narrenparty)

Stage wins by teams:
1 - Dreizehn
1 - Narrenparty

Days in the Maglia Rosa
2 - Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)

[drei.zehn]

Stage 2, first ITT, 14 km, but not completely flat. Stefano Tzimas (Narrenparty) was the expected winner, but what happened with the GC guys? Reggy Badenburg (CreditPommes) missed the Maglia Rosa by 25 seconds. That means that the winner from stage 1, Temptation Coventry, will still wear the leader jersey at the start tomorrow. Self-proclaimed non-favourite Baptiste Firiam (r TAKA) finished 5th today and lost 1 min 3 secs against Badenburg, 1 min 44 secs to Tzimas. The Fürst (Team FL) finished 2 secs behind Firiam, accompagnied by two team mates, Lucifero and Stenberg. The next GC guys were Tom Trost (Tornado Team) at 1 min 57 and Murodbek Makhamadzhonov (Tukhtahuaev) at 2 min 11 secs, trailed by Émile Lachance by 1 sec.

Aha! So suddenly Liu Bei is no GC guy anymore to you? I‘ll keep that in mind! ;D

[team fl]

Stage 2, first ITT, 14 km, but not completely flat. Stefano Tzimas (Narrenparty) was the expected winner, but what happened with the GC guys? Reggy Badenburg (CreditPommes) missed the Maglia Rosa by 25 seconds. That means that the winner from stage 1, Temptation Coventry, will still wear the leader jersey at the start tomorrow. Self-proclaimed non-favourite Baptiste Firiam (r TAKA) finished 5th today and lost 1 min 3 secs against Badenburg, 1 min 44 secs to Tzimas. The Fürst (Team FL) finished 2 secs behind Firiam, accompagnied by two team mates, Lucifero and Stenberg. The next GC guys were Tom Trost (Tornado Team) at 1 min 57 and Murodbek Makhamadzhonov (Tukhtahuaev) at 2 min 11 secs, trailed by Émile Lachance by 1 sec.

Aha! So suddenly Liu Bei is no GC guy anymore to you? I‘ll keep that in mind! ;D

Wanted to write something about the other classements as well, but then had no time anymore to do it. So Liu Bei got lost there

[Robyklebt]

Liu Bei sucks. Cao Cao all the way.

[team fl]

Stage 3. A bit similar to stage 1, but only one long hard (that's what she said!) climb around 50 km before the finish line. Again, action from the beginning, but Team FL going for that intermediate sprint for Alex at km 35. So, action delayed, started again right from km 37. CreditPommes had everything under control and led the peloton into that final climb where r TAKA reduced the main group with Mori tempo, right before the Big Donkey Duo Lachance and Dixon launched an attack at km 120, followed by Crescenzo Poggiolini (Tukhtahuaev), Murodbek Makhamadzhonov (Tukhtahuaev) and Rodrigo Macedo (Wolfpack Cycling Team). Again CreditPommes chasing in the back, while the Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn) in the Maglia Rosa was gone too from that group. He fought hard, but lost Rosa and the Ciclamino today.

Anyway, with tempo from Stoel and Eef, the 5 climbers in front got caught easily, while the r TAKA train was chasing to get back to the group of the main favourites with Firiam being isolated. It looked like everything was under contol, again, by CreditPommes GC wise, when at km 157, the decisive attack for the stage win happend. Olayuk Arlooktoo (Tukhtahuaev) and Lucas Papillon (Gipfelstuermer) attacked, followed by Alexis Art (Romoc Riders) and Fürchtegott Fürst (Team FL). They defended the gap to the main group with 1 sec to the final km, where Arlooktoo had the best tactic in the final sprint and could win stage 3. The Fürst got 2nd and grabbed the Maglia Ciclamino, while Reggy Badenburg (CreditPommes) wears the Maglia Rosa now. Anderson Apollo is still in the Maglia Azzurra and Sergey Kriushenko leads the youth classement in the Maglia Bianca. Tomorrow is a rest day, before the sprinters will have a bit more from the race than until now, besides that sprint at km 35 today...

Stage 3:

01. 00:00:00 Olayuk Arlooktoo (Tukhtahuaev)
02. 00:00:00 Fürchtegott Fürst (Team FL)
03. 00:00:00 Alexis Art (Romoc Riders)
04. 00:00:00 Lucas Papillon (Gipfelstuermer)
05. 00:00:01 Torger Wolff (Tornado Team)
06. 00:00:01 Baptiste Firiam (r TAKA)
07. 00:00:01 Reggy Badenburg (CreditPommes)
08. 00:00:01 Shin Omura (r TAKA)
09. 00:00:01 Noah Lüthi (Big Donkey)
... -> 21 other riders in the same time

Maglia Rosa

01. 00:00:00 Reggy Badenburg (CreditPommes)
02. 00:00:20 Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)
03. 00:00:46 Fürchtegott Fürst (Team FL)
04. 00:01:03 Baptiste Firiam (r TAKA)
05. 00:01:09 Sergey Kriushenko (Tornado Team)
06. 00:01:12 Liu Bei (Dreizehn)
07. 00:01:16 Tom Trost (Narrenparty)
08. 00:01:18 Santiago Tabarez (Tornado Team)
09. 00:01:20 Itachi Uchiha (r TAKA)
10. 00:01:22 Alexis Art (Romoc Riders)
11. 00:01:24 Olayuk Arlooktoo (Tukhtahuaev)
12. 00:01:29 Crescenzo Poggiolini (Tukhtahuaev)
13. 00:01:30 Murodbek Makhamadzhonov (Tukhtahuaev)
14. 00:01:31 Émile Lachance (Big Donkey)
15. 00:01:34 Alex Dixon (Big Donkey)

Maglia Ciclamino

030 - Fürchtegott Fürst (Team FL)
026 - Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)
025 - Olayuk Arlooktoo (Tukhtahuaev)

Maglia Azzurra

028 - Anderson Apollo (Romoc Riders)
018 - Crescenzo Poggiolini (Tukhtahuaev)
013 - Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)

Maglia Bianca

01. 00:01:09 Sergey Kriushenko (Tornado Team)
02. 00:01:12 Liu Bei (Dreizehn)
03. 00:01:18 Santiago Tabarez (Tornado Team)

* will not be eligible for the final Maglia Bianca

Team classement

01. 00:00:00 Big Donkey
02. 00:00:02 r TAKA
03. 00:00:17 CreditPommes


Stage wins by riders:
1 - Olayuk Arlooktoo (Tukhtahuaev)
1 - Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)
1 - Stefano Tzimas (Narrenparty)

Stage wins by teams:
1 - Dreizehn
1 - Narrenparty
1 - Tukhtahuaev

Days in the Maglia Rosa
2 - Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)
1 - Reggy Badenburg (CreditPommes)

[Gipfelstuermer]

On the rest day, we finally had time to look at the peloton, and we were absolutely shocked. Last year's (morning) winner Vladislav Tarabesh, instead of giving him the chance to fight for his 2nd maglia rosa, was forced into retirement just before the start of the Giro. At 36 years old, he was ditched by his team. What an unthankful move. The team's choice of Makhamadzhonov as a leader must be respected, but then at least they should have allowed Tarabesh to join another team by selling him before 34. Some team might have picked him up... So now we really don't know whom to cheer for. Hopefully some other climber will deliver an inspiring performance.

[team fl]

Stage 4, sprinter time! Or is it? Chicken FL already panicking after an early attack. Must have been this pesky Temptation Coventry, Camille Roy (Big Donkey) who stole the virutal Ciclamino from the Fürst or the fact that neither r TAKA or CreditPommes were online. The first to annoy, the second to go crazy for the Maglia Rosa. Well, in the end it was even good to have Coventry in the escape, because CreditPommes, when online, rode for Reggy's Maglia Rosa. Not like crazy, but decently. So decently actually, that the escape of the day was caught almost right before the finish line with additional help from Narrenparty, Romoc Riders and others. In the following bunch sprint, both Romoc Riders and Team FL launched their sprint trains with Narrenparty having one of his sprinters in each of the trains. In the end, it was Andrade from Dreizehn who was the first to launch the final sprint. Cantagalli from Team FL reacted swiftly and pulled his sprint captain Alex Alailefaleula into the right position. But there was still Sapielak (Tukhtahuav) right at Andrade's wheel when both him and Alex launched at 100m before the finish line. With a great effort and by a small margin, Alex overtook Sapielak on the last meters, won the first bunch sprint of this year's afternoon Giro (the only real Giro!) and stole the Maglia Ciclamino from his team mate the Fürst. Behind those two, Dietmar Barth (Narrenparty) caught the last podium place for today's stage. Lots of action againg, although nothing much changed in the other classements.


Stage 3:

01. 00:00:00 Alex Alailefaleula (Team FL)
02. 00:00:00 Hubert Sapielak (Tukhtahuaev)
03. 00:00:00 Dietmar Barth (Narrenparty)
04. 00:00:00 Rafael Andrade (Dreizehn)
05. 00:00:00 Calcedonio Cantagalli (Team FL)
06. 00:00:00 Arend Jongh (CreditPommes)
07. 00:00:00 Hannes Rauch (Narrenparty)
08. 00:00:00 Damien Toulet (Big Donkey)
09. 00:00:00 Thijs Toornstra (Romoc Riders)
10. 00:00:00 Gianpaolo Cabassi (Gipfelstuermer)

Maglia Rosa

01. 00:00:00 Reggy Badenburg (CreditPommes)
02. 00:00:20 Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)
03. 00:00:46 Fürchtegott Fürst (Team FL)
04. 00:01:03 Baptiste Firiam (r TAKA)
05. 00:01:09 Sergey Kriushenko (Tornado Team)
06. 00:01:12 Liu Bei (Dreizehn)
07. 00:01:16 Tom Trost (Narrenparty)
08. 00:01:18 Santiago Tabarez (Tornado Team)
09. 00:01:20 Itachi Uchiha (r TAKA)
10. 00:01:22 Alexis Art (Romoc Riders)
11. 00:01:24 Olayuk Arlooktoo (Tukhtahuaev)
12. 00:01:29 Crescenzo Poggiolini (Tukhtahuaev)
13. 00:01:30 Murodbek Makhamadzhonov (Tukhtahuaev)
14. 00:01:31 Émile Lachance (Big Donkey)
15. 00:01:34 Alex Dixon (Big Donkey)

Maglia Ciclamino

062 - Alex Alailefaleula (Team FL)
040 - Camille Roy (Big Donkey)
036 - Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)

Maglia Azzurra

028 - Anderson Apollo (Romoc Riders)
018 - Crescenzo Poggiolini (Tukhtahuaev)
016 - Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)

Maglia Bianca

01. 00:01:09 Sergey Kriushenko (Tornado Team)
02. 00:01:12 Liu Bei (Dreizehn)
03. 00:01:18 Santiago Tabarez (Tornado Team)

* will not be eligible for the final Maglia Bianca

Team classement

01. 00:00:00 Big Donkey
02. 00:00:02 r TAKA
03. 00:00:17 CreditPommes


Stage wins by riders:
1 - Alex Alailefaleula (Team FL)
1 - Olayuk Arlooktoo (Tukhtahuaev)
1 - Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)
1 - Stefano Tzimas (Narrenparty)

Stage wins by teams:
1 - Dreizehn
1 - Narrenparty
1 - Team FL
1 - Tukhtahuaev

Days in the Maglia Rosa
2 - Temptation Coventry (Dreizehn)
2 - Reggy Badenburg (CreditPommes)

[Tukhtahuaev]

On the rest day, we finally had time to look at the peloton, and we were absolutely shocked. Last year's (morning) winner Vladislav Tarabesh, instead of giving him the chance to fight for his 2nd maglia rosa, was forced into retirement just before the start of the Giro. At 36 years old, he was ditched by his team. What an unthankful move. The team's choice of Makhamadzhonov as a leader must be respected, but then at least they should have allowed Tarabesh to join another team by selling him before 34. Some team might have picked him up... So now we really don't know whom to cheer for. Hopefully some other climber will deliver an inspiring performance.

Really hoped that I could take him to the Giro again withot sabotaging my own chances and for a while it was looking like he would get his chance, but then he got a bit too lazy in training.

[Robyklebt]

Escape, my masterplan was the to get ciclamino for Roy, not today, tomorrow. But ok, Coventry same idea, makes it difficult. The 12 points that Alex already had even more, had forgotten them. 16 points for Roy in the end, not the hoped for 24.. .so tomorrow looks highly unlikely. Worth a try, the group then went further than thought. Hoped to be at 50-48 before tomorrow and somehow manage to get it for a day. Yes, Donkey happy with little things for the moment.

FL blowing a fuse early, stopping tempo when he probably would have caught that group fast (ok for me, no Coventry looked nice for me, Donks was going to try again). And then not going back in, instead wondering who will come online when and help (I hope he misses sprint-Donkey, Mr. Reliable!) Then came to his senses and rode, just in the right moment I guess, wasn't too far off for the group finally, but ok, bigger advantage for the group and they go faster earlier. Good managment by Tukh in front, Dreizehn and Donkey just happily following his orders, good like that.

Sprint, Toulet didn't win, blah, ok, Napoli then!