Tukhtahuaev - Still not difficult to pronounce

[Tukhtahuaev]

I am still waiting for Mongolia and Madagascar to be added to make you suffer even more

[Robyklebt]

10 years? Congrats! You're now only a semi-noob!

I don't fully get the Karatay hate. He is no Novelli.... He was just one of these countless Tukhs, that appear out of nowhere and win. After the Vuelta it was, suddenly there's a new Tukh winning nonstop, checked, impressive from the end of September (Paris-Chauny) to early November, (Lombok Classic) 1 stage race, 1 stage, 5 one day races, the NC. Superstar. Then ok, he disappeared a bit...a lot. Might be because of Grala? Hate him, not Karatay.

But the list is bad anyway, where is Tukhtasinov???

[Tukhtahuaev]

Karatay just stopped a series of classics at least training decently. With his 71 mountain and low flat there were just so many races where he stood no chance against all the super classics that are around. Had nothing to do with Grala. And Grala I couldn't really hate. Was just the wrong decision to buy him, but he was actually a really good rider