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19H Route of the three wise men.
Stage 3

After the Sieb Fighting for classemen Waerl vs Hansa

Gigi with 4 Guys in the front classic Group and just 1 guy in the back Grouzp with the Waerl yellow Jersey joins tempo there and helps waerl.
To this Point ok strange but ok-.

after this fight goes on for 15kms he then starts to drop his classics from the front to the 2nd Group despite not having any gc guy or any guy for the stage in that 2nd Group and Closes the gap with his classics in the 2nd Group.

that in my opinion is not riding the best for his Team it is purely riding against me and influencing the classement without any Advantage for him.

dropping guys from the front Group to the back to then ride there instead of just having them in front is really strange. no Chat from gigi About this.

RS Coesitz witnessed the race as a Visitor if you Need confirmation About what happened.

Km: 170, Steigung: 3
Waer Ibak (waerl) schafft es nicht an die Spitze
Waer Kiaby (waerl) schafft es nicht an die Spitze
Alex Schwartz (waerl) schafft es nicht an die Spitze

Km: 169, Steigung: -2

Km: 168, Steigung: -2
Gerald Ozlberger (team gigi) l�sst sich zur�ckfallen


dropped 2 classics km 168 dont know why it only Shows 1 but then rode at the 3% with These classics in the 2nd group and Closing the gap till km 172

Hansa,

"unrealistic riding" is not prohibited in RSF. In fact, some argue that a lot about this game is unrealistic....

However, "unrealistic arrangements are not allowed" (see Fairplay Rules).

Gip

Gipfelstuermer wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:58 pm

Hansa,

"unrealistic riding" is not prohibited in RSF. In fact, some argue that a lot about this game is unrealistic....

However, "unrealistic arrangements are not allowed" (see Fairplay Rules).

Gip

Von der Spielleitung geahndet werden unfaire Verhaltensweisen, die die Lücken des Systems ausnutzen. Spieler, die mit unrealistischen Verhaltensweisen arbeiten, es z.B. ausnutzen wollen, wenn in der Anfangsphase wenige online sind (der klassische Teamangriff), müssen damit rechnen durch Punktabzug, Geldabzug, Rennsperren bestraft zu werden. Dies lässt sich nicht alles in ein ausformuliertes Regelwerk fassen und vieles steht auch noch zur Diskussion.

Da muss ich dich informieren das unrealistische Verhaltensweisen durchaus laut Regel verboten sind.
danach werden nach z.B. Beispiele angeführt die aber nicht ausschließen, dass auch andere sachen geahndet werden können. und seine Fahrer von vorne nach hinten fallen lassen um dort zu fahren obwohl man dort gar keinen Grund hat ist meiner Meinung nach extremst unfair.

Desweitern ist Fahrer von vorne nach hinten Fallen lassen ohne dadurch hinten einen Vorteil hat bestimmt auch gegen diese Fairniss regel:

Jedes Team muss so handeln, wie es für das eigene Team am besten ist.

er hatten keine Vorteil durch das Fahrer droppen und dort zu fahren.

Yes, the english version of the fairplay rules (those that you have to agree before the race) is the same:

There is this rule: "unrealistic arrangements are not allowed", as mentioned
and this rule: "every manager must do the best for his team . Separation of private and RSF is required."

Do you accuse Team Gigi of one of them or both or something else?

If we open a case (even with low probability of success) would at least like to know, which rule we are talking about it...

dont know which fits more. i guess its more like not riding for his Teams interest. he let his Teams interest down for riding directly against me.

FPC is reviewing this case.

stage 4 he does the same again.

dropping a classic from a front group back to waerl, gigi did not even have a rider in this waerl Group, and then starts riding and pulls waerl to 2nd place in classement.

ill add screenshot later.

KM 177 after the last sieb km gigi with all 4 classics in front
gigi dropping his guy back
gigi dropping his guy behind my group

gigi Drops down to the waerl Group, he has no rider here.
gigi rides for waerl
gigi saves gc place 2 and White Jersey with 2 seconds without having any Advantage of it. he even has a disadvantage because he lost positipons with his classic.