CircleCycle insulting

[Liquigas-CND]

CircleCycle<14:29>: Even if I doubt it, maybe there is help for you
CircleCycle<14:29>: next time you are allowed to enter austria, try to see a doctor there
CircleCycle<14:28>: created by your own imagination
Liquigas-CND<14:28>: needless to say that you are frustrated otherwise I dont see the reasons of such insults
CircleCycle<14:28>: more "alternative facts"
CircleCycle<14:27>: your "facts" haha
CircleCycle<14:26>: normally I'd feel sorry for a shithead like you
Liquigas-CND<14:26>: and you started to insult me for reminding you true facts
Liquigas-CND<14:26>: I only reminded you situations from the past
CircleCycle<14:26>: you and your complexes are really not needed here, by any means
Liquigas-CND<14:26>: you will remain with your hope
CircleCycle<14:26>: for inappropriate behaviour
High Flyer<14:25>: -_-
CircleCycle<14:25>: I sincerely hope you get banned soon
CircleCycle<14:25>: well, someone like you shouldn't judge
Liquigas-CND<14:25>: that tells a lot about your intelligence
Liquigas-CND<14:24>: you are only follwing instructions, you could not realize what is good and what is bad
CircleCycle<14:24>: a nobody. in real life. and you try to compensate it here
Liquigas-CND<14:24>: you are irrelevant that's why I will not respond your insults
CircleCycle<14:24>: you are literally a nothing.
CircleCycle<14:23>: you are a disgrace
CircleCycle<14:23>: I followed instructions, you were lucky. leave it
Liquigas-CND<14:23>: with a 88 climber vs my 87 climber
High Flyer<14:23>: cast swe and aux as the leads and liqui as the side character
CircleCycle<14:22>: you are just stupid
Liquigas-CND<14:22>: while sitting.
High Flyer<14:22>: you could take the chat and create a good reality drama show with it
Liquigas-CND<14:22>: this CC not only that he had not balls to ride GTs when I had 88 / 89 climbers but also lost a GC for Alk
High Flyer<14:21>: it was fun 4 months ago
JoyRide<14:20>: don't...it's fun
Equipe ZB<14:19>: or restriction..5 comments every day
High Flyer<14:18>: ^^
Equipe ZB<14:18>: how about a timeout for all 3 of em? 48h chatban
LENNAO<14:17>:
LENNAO<14:17>: And donkey - ageing looks weird
LENNAO<14:16>: RSF Style
LENNAO<14:15>: beginning with a fight - King vs all the losers
High Flyer<14:15>: lets clear the chat and start afresh
CircleCycle<14:15>: you are the loser. period.
JoyRide<14:14>: freaks
High Flyer<14:14>: thank you equipe
Equipe ZB<14:10>: well..fine, punishment, whatever
Liquigas-CND<14:10>: but that's a proof that Liquigas knows to lose as well as to win!
Equipe ZB<14:10>: is this discussion even on topic anymore or just the usual fight between you guys? especially donkey isnt against a fine..just read his post
Liquigas-CND<14:09>: I did not stop, I rode in 2017 and won only 1 GT
Liquigas-CND<13:52>: the loser stopped riding GTs when I had 88-89 climbers
Liquigas-CND<13:52>: riding*
Liquigas-CND<13:52>: ha ha, CC riing in the morning cause he iss afraid to ride a competitive field
CircleCycle<13:32>: Houssem should be enough to scare that loser-jester
Team FL<13:30>: I repeat myself. Go on with your bits and bytes, bye.
TeamSWE<13:29>: fact
TeamSWE<13:29>: you and donkey still talking against
TeamSWE<13:29>: fact
TeamSWE<13:29>: aux not punished
TeamSWE<13:29>: fact
TeamSWE<13:29>: aux = multi
TeamSWE<13:29>: which has been proven wrong
TeamSWE<13:29>: he prepared it so you just need to write "your opinion" and people automatically think: "ah just swe opinion"
Team FL<13:29>: If I would write: "You are completely clueless and retarded, of course your opinion is wrong consequently". That would be ad hominem.
TeamSWE<13:28>: and especially donkey does it
Team FL<13:28>: That is not ad hominem
Team FL<13:28>: I have not attacked your character since 13:23, have I?
TeamSWE<13:28>: "Team FL<13:26>: But it is a fact that it is your opinion. "
Team FL<13:27>: ad hominem? where?
TeamSWE<13:27>: the fact exist regardless of my person
Team FL<13:27>: We can go on an on with this
TeamSWE<13:27>: ad hominem...
Team FL<13:27>: Not in this particular case.
TeamSWE<13:27>: it is a proven fact that aux is a multi account user
Team FL<13:26>: But it is a fact that it is your opinion.
Team FL<13:26>: 3.) no, the FPC can recommend but not decide. It hasn't the competence.
TeamSWE<13:26>: stop to deligitimize facts as opinion
Team FL<13:26>: 2.) no it hasn't. Aux has not received any penatly from it.
TeamSWE<13:25>: 3.) is true because of 2.)
Team FL<13:25>: 1.) no you haven't shown me. You just repeated your opinion about it.
TeamSWE<13:25>: 2.) yes i happend since fpc is not what leso wrote
Team FL<13:25>: It's much more fun and it's for a good cause.
TeamSWE<13:25>: 1.) wrong as i showed
Team FL<13:24>: Anyway, you hijack the chat again for your cause. Better try to find a new name for Liquigas-CND too .
Team FL<13:24>: 1.) is not proven in this case, 2.) has not happened in this case and 3.) no overruling because the FPC itself can't decide in the first place.
TeamSWE<13:22>: 3.) leso overruled that decision
TeamSWE<13:21>: 2.) fpc fined him
TeamSWE<13:21>: 1.) aux is multi (account user)
TeamSWE<13:21>: the fact that:
TeamSWE<13:21>: instead of relation to the facts
TeamSWE<13:21>: again hierarchy of disagreement
Big Donkey<13:19>: You don't understand anything of what I say SWE.... first step should be to understand what others say....
Big Donkey<13:19>: But ok, buy Notari, but I suspect he has no form somehow...
TeamSWE<13:18>: donkey(s argumentation) destroyed again
Big Donkey<13:14>: Of course you don't, you avoided them.
Big Donkey<13:14>: Where are our calculators? I need the percentages of that being a coincidence, how it relates to the snakes and rapes, Obama and Black Jack!
Liquigas-CND<13:14>: Dont remember zipoli or zazaf
Team FL<13:13>: Yep, better do the name change than buying Notari!
Big Donkey<13:13>: Hmm, let's think, when did the King miss the afternoon Giro? Oh, when Zipoli and Zafzaf were active:)
Liquigas-CND<13:13>: I have more than 3 M
Liquigas-CND<13:13>: they will probably be in each field
Big Donkey<13:12>: He doesn't have money:)
Liquigas-CND<13:12>: Nope, I cannot avoid such climbers
Big Donkey<13:12>: Plus the King doesn't understand the youtube song game?
Liquigas-CND<13:12>: Just have to decide asap if to buy Vincenzo Notari...
Big Donkey<13:12>: He thinks, but wants to see if strong teams join.... Some 88 climbers and suddenly the afternoon won't be doable anymore....
Liquigas-CND<13:10>: I think so
Team FL<13:09>: Liquigas-CND, you join the afternoon Giro?`

[Laurens88]

@FPC: if you investigate this case, perhaps also investigate Liquigas’ provoking behaviour, because even for a calm guy like me it’s sometimes difficult not to insult this guy who I have absolutely no respect for.

Even though he is smarter than Aux and never crosses the line, such toxic people really take the fun out of the game for me sometimes and in general that is one of the reasons why I am considering to quit the game. Probably I am not alone in that, so action may be taken in my opinion. Just like in a football game a player who is constantly provoking can also get a yellow card for his behaviour.

[CircleCycle]

Liquigas-CND<09:08>: poor loser
Liquigas-CND<09:08>: CC is looking for an easy field
CircleCycle<08:44>: maybe
Liquigas-CND<07:46>: sorry for - 2 to all, i was drunk
Liquigas-CND<07:46>: most likely i will ride in the evening or wont ride at all
Big Donkey<03:43>: More 15h! CC!LiqLiq! Joy!

from the chat 11.05. 09:11

Liquigas-CND<21:57>: To make you cry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Liquigas-CND<21:54>: The King is here!
Carrera Blue Jeans<21:52>: i will improve, promise.
Carrera Blue Jeans<21:52>:
Liquigas-CND<21:52>: Yooouuuu Losers!!!

and yesterday ~22:00

as someone of fpc asked me for a statement (will follow later this weekend)

[CircleCycle]

(taken from the first post, in which the thread opener managed to highlight some of my insults, but forgot to do the same for others)

Liquigas-CND<13:52>: the loser stopped riding GTs when I had 88-89 climbers
Liquigas-CND<14:22>: this CC not only that he had not balls to ride GTs when I had 88 / 89 climbers but also lost a GC for Alk
Liquigas-CND<14:25>: that tells a lot about your intelligence
Liquigas-CND<14:24>: you are only follwing instructions, you could not realize what is good and what is bad

The self proclaimed king clearly not a role model for chat behaviour neither.

[Liquigas-CND]

No insult.
We are all winners and losers in this game.
If you ever lost a race in this game (to me losing means not winning a race) then you are a loser.

Your insults towards me are crystal clear and you failed to find insults from me.
Words like "stupid", "a disgrace", " a nobody in real life" are clearly insults!

I dont see any insults below. Did I say that you are not intelligent? No.
Liquigas-CND<14:25>: that tells a lot about your intelligence
Liquigas-CND<14:24>: you are only follwing instructions, you could not realize what is good and what is bad

[CircleCycle]

In general the insults marked bold (and those not marked maybe too) clearly were too much, despite the provoking behaviour since years. Best answer was given by RC Cost in the chat right after it, although I don't dare to repeat it here, as someone could feel insulted by the truth again.

So yes, for that case, a fine here definitely needed, and in the future I'll just stay silent and won't write what I think about this lousy manager.

Extenuating circumstances although also should be taken into account.
Even someone not involved at all (Rapid Vitesse) answering in this thread shows the repeatedly provoking behaviour of this manager is kind of a problem. Sometimes it is easy to ignore and laugh about, sometimes not.

Calling himself "king of rsf" is no big deal - everybody can see that his results were just a product of superb training and not managing skills.
It gets more a problem, when he calls other managers losers (repeatedly), telling others to "shut up" (repeatedly) because he is the "king", thereby destroying the fun for others, lying, manipulating, writing things which are proven wrong ..., .... well, one could continue there for hours and will find a lot of things, which are most likely not against any written fairplay rules, but still somehow borderline.
In my opinion, the sentence the guy used before

Liquigas-CND<14:25>: that tells a lot about your intelligence

fits perfectly for his own behaviour and no further comments are needed, as everybody with a brain (and able to use it) can draw his own conclusions.

By the way, as Rapid Vitesse asked

@FPC: if you investigate this case, perhaps also investigate Liquigas’ provoking behaviour,

I may also ask, if there needs to be a own case opened about this, or, if the insults I mentioned in a previous post here (from 11.05. 09:12am and 11.05. 09:20am) are already enough?

[Liquigas-CND]

Honestly I don't really care about others managers answers given in the chat because their answers/opinions might be subjective.
I think FPC will investigate the case brought to their attention above and maybe also your desperate tries to blame me and to explain FPC how malefic I am, how I provoked you... Please dont try to distort the reality and this entire case as it is very clear what happened. I was not even discussing with you when you started to provoke me.

Of course a fine is needed for your insults. I agree.

Although irrelevant for this case where you are the agressor, the manager that insulted another manager, I will repeat what I already wrote few days ago. Calling someone a loser is not an insult as we are all losers and winners in this game. Maybe you can call it provocation but not insult. If you dont win a race that makes you already a loser and if you are winning at least one race you can consider yourself a winner too.

You are the one that started the provocations, I was not even talking to you when you started to call me "loser-jester".
This is the proof that you actually are the agressor, the one that provoked this case including this: "Liquigas-CND<14:25>: that tells a lot about your intelligence". But as I've said this is not an insult, I did not say that you are not intellligent.

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Liquigas-CND<14:09>: I did not stop, I rode in 2017 and won only 1 GT
Liquigas-CND<13:52>: the loser stopped riding GTs when I had 88-89 climbers
Liquigas-CND<13:52>: riding*
Liquigas-CND<13:52>: ha ha, CC riing in the morning cause he iss afraid to ride a competitive field
CircleCycle<13:32>: Houssem should be enough to scare that loser-jester
Team FL<13:30>: I repeat myself. Go on with your bits and bytes, bye.
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Have a nice day!

[Liquigas-CND]

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PENALTY SUBMITTED: FINE OF70000, WARNING: NO