Multi suspects: Pavler/Sporties/ProTour

[Pokemon Club]

hihi PTT has a double personnality it looks, not his fault !

[Radomiak]

and? as leso already said, the ban is/was for PTT and not for me..

but as he is offline since friday it can still take some days.. the month is over

just take a look at the teams guys... at least you, franco.. i hope you are smart enough to do thinks like this.. atb, well... nevermind

Someone forgot to relog? Buahahahaha.

[deuseburger]

moin miteinander...
meanwhile its way to interesting to further ignore it...
so, 2 questions along with the plea for an answer, just to be sure...
a) - is this post:

and? as leso already said, the ban is/was for PTT and not for me..

a direct answer to this:

of course you create new teams after your main one was banned ... seems pretty obvious and logical for me

???

and
b) - please give me at least one quote where leso states the above or that:

.

EDIT 2:

Maurice: sagt der, der die eindeutige erlaubnis von leso, dass ich auch während ich gesperrt bin sitten darf, partout nicht akzeptieren will..

(though the last one is a quote from a race chat by "maurice" (quoted by atb) i guess its safe to say it was ptt while sitting... )

so please give me leso quotes for this...

as a sidenote for the "forgot to relog" "owngoal" fraction: learn to read!!!

cheers deuse...

[Allagen]

and? as leso already said, the ban is/was for PTT and not for me..

but as he is offline since friday it can still take some days.. the month is over

just take a look at the teams guys... at least you, franco.. i hope you are smart enough to do thinks like this.. atb, well... nevermind

muhahhahahhaha best post ever!

[Chense]

Please buh and leso brinv this unholy story to an end ... Delete all his known accounts and then let him found a new team if hes really that keen on playing rsf all day ...

[Allagen]

Please buh and leso brinv this unholy story to an end ... Delete all his known accounts and then let him found a new team if hes really that keen on playing rsf all day ...

[luques]

according to luques there were some short-races with maurice, pavler, RacingStar as participants

A precisation, probably i explained bad in chat, i never said that there were short races with those guys but that these guys plays short races in "strange hours", for strange hours i mean from 3am to 6am.

Especially Maurice and PTT played some races together at that hours, and when PTT was banned RacingStar started to play at that hour that he never played before.

For Example, 14.06 PTT plays at 5am, Maurice at 6am.
Another day At 6am:
01. 00:00:00 Dummy 1093 (Auto-Bot 1)
02. 00:00:00 Dummy 1091 (Auto-Bot 1)
03. 00:00:00 Maurice 4 (Maurice)
04. 00:00:00 Maurice 1 (Maurice)
05. 00:00:00 Remi Diarra (ProTour-Team)
06. 00:00:00 Team Wallstadt 4 (Team Wallstadt)
07. 00:00:00 Dummy 1090 (Auto-Bot 1)
08. 00:00:00 Team Wallstadt 3 (Team Wallstadt)
09. 00:00:00 RS Ostfriesland 4 (RS Ostfriesland)
10. 00:00:00 Papiss Traoré (ProTour-Team)

In all June RacingStars never played in early early morning hours, in July:

03.07 3/4 AM: 01. 00:00:00 RacingStar 4 (RacingStar)
02. 00:00:00 Claudia Kinski (RacingStar)
03. 00:00:00 RacingStar 3 (RacingStar)
04. 00:00:00 Rashiid Cochon (RacingStar)

But it can be only a coincidence, another thing:

23.05 late night 4AM:

01. 00:00:00 Mark Pellegrino (Pavler)
02. 00:00:00 Pavler 4 (Pavler)
03. 00:00:00 Pavler 3 (Pavler)
04. 00:00:00 Maria deRemercier (Pavler)
05. 00:00:00 Dummy 38 (Auto-Bot 4)
06. 00:00:00 Dummy 26 (Auto-Bot 1)
07. 00:00:00 Dummy 30 (Auto-Bot 2)
08. 00:00:00 Dummy 34 (Auto-Bot 3)
09. 00:00:00 Mahir Cengül (ProTour-Team)
10. 00:00:00 Dummy 24 (Auto-Bot 1)
11. 00:00:00 Dummy 31 (Auto-Bot 3)
12. 00:00:00 Dummy 23 (Auto-Bot 1)
13. 00:00:00 Florian Flaschenträger (ProTour-Team)
14. 00:00:00 Dummy 36 (Auto-Bot 4)
15. 00:00:00 Dummy 32 (Auto-Bot 3)
16. 00:00:00 Dummy 27 (Auto-Bot 2)
17. 00:00:00 Dummy 35 (Auto-Bot 4)
18. 00:00:00 Dummy 28 (Auto-Bot 2)
19. 00:00:00 Mehmet Ekici (ProTour-Team)
20. 00:00:00 Remi Dombo (ProTour-Team)

So at least from May Pavler was playing.
Another thing, please Leso stop giving race points to short races with only one participant. I think it is unfair both with the paying users and with the others that can't play in that hours (overnight)

[sylvainmeteo]

RacingStar still racing 15h GP Paris est

[team fl]

RacingStar still racing 15h GP Paris est

Still? It hasn't even started yet...

[luques]

One note, is it confirmed that Sporties is a multi of PTT, and if yes why it hasn't been cancelled?

Sporties situation right now, 4 riders, bought in january now perfect to race (all 4 28 years):
He has
69-80
67-84
72-81
68-59 and 89 sprint

probably he will never come back, but truth is that these riders are growing.
So if this team is a multi just ask to PTT what team want to keep and destroy the others, thanks.

[Radomiak]

Admins can't delete PTT teams because there will be only around 10 teams left in whole rsf. With against who will i play then?

[luques]

PTT and RacingStar had their last race on 01/08 both.

PTT already told that RacingStar is one of his multi (am i right on this?).

Let him choose what he want to keep and delete the other.

[IDF]

Maurice = PTT or not?

[Allagen]

PTT and RacingStar had their last race on 01/08 both.

PTT already told that RacingStar is one of his multi (am i right on this?).

Let him choose what he want to keep and delete the other.

better: delete both/all teams. and he can start with a new team, 0 riders, 15 mio.

[lesossies]

One note, is it confirmed that Sporties is a multi of PTT, and if yes why it hasn't been cancelled?

Sporties situation right now, 4 riders, bought in january now perfect to race (all 4 28 years):
He has
69-80
67-84
72-81
68-59 and 89 sprint

probably he will never come back, but truth is that these riders are growing.
So if this team is a multi just ask to PTT what team want to keep and destroy the others, thanks.

Sporties has been banned and cannot get access to his team.

[lesossies]

Maurice = PTT or not?

I dont think so.
But not 100% sure !

[lesossies]

PTT already told that RacingStar is one of his multi (am i right on this?).

I dont know.
If it is sure, I´ll delete RacingStar .

[Chense]

PTT already told that RacingStar is one of his multi (am i right on this?).

I dont know.
If it is sure, I´ll delete RacingStar .

Delete both of them and all other multis ... then he can restart with a new team

[Allagen]

PTT already told that RacingStar is one of his multi (am i right on this?).

I dont know.
If it is sure, I´ll delete RacingStar .

Delete both of them and all other multis ... then he can restart with a new team

würde ich auch so sehen. wobei sein hauptteam, soll er von mir aus behalten dürfen, aber da einfach einen zwangsresett machen und er fängt mit 15 mio neu an. die restlichen teams komplett löschen.

[ProTour-Team]

sorry, aber wie verblödet seid ihr eig? dass playboys, maurice und ich (total) unterschiedliche manager sind sollte wohl jeder blicken!
RacingStar einfach mal checken, dann fällt auf, dass es sich dabei auch nicht um einen Multi, sondern um ein Übergangsteam handelt.

[deuseburger]

moin miteinander...

erstmal danke für dein Statement ptt...
und jetzt erklär uns verblödeten, nichts blickenden Regelbefolgern doch mal den Unterschied zwischen einem verbotenem Multiaccount und einem regelkonformem Übergangsteam...

für den Fall, das du dies nicht schaffen solltest (mit den Zitaten aus dem Regelwerk, die das eine verbieten während sie das andere erlauben), anbei mein Antrag an die Administration dieser Seite:

LÖSCHEN!!! und zwar ALLE bekannten Teams dieses Nutzers und ich meine LÖSCHEN, nicht sperren oder blocken... und zwar in allen Statistiken, ich will weder ehemalige Fahrer noch Palmares - Einträge noch sonst irgendwelche Überbleibsel dieser Teams sehen...

gruß deuse

english (SHORT) summary
please explain the difference between an illegal multi acc and an legal transition team... in case you cant, dear admins DELETE all known teams include ex - riders and any possible statistc entry...
thx

cheers deuse

[Hunsrueck]

moin miteinander...

erstmal danke für dein Statement ptt...
und jetzt erklär uns dämlichen Regelbefolgern doch mal den Unterschied zwischen einem verbotenem Multiaccount und einem regelkonformem Übergangsteam...

für den Fall, das du dies nicht schaffen solltest (mit den Zitaten aus dem Regelwerk, die das eine verbieten während sie das andere erlauben), anbei mein Antrag an die Administration dieser Seite:

LÖSCHEN!!! und zwar ALLE bekannten Teams dieses Nutzers und ich meine LÖSCHEN, nicht sperren oder blocken... und zwar in allen Statistiken, ich will weder ehemalige Fahrer noch Palmares - Einträge noch sonst irgendwelche Überbleibsel dieser Teams sehen...

gruß deuse

english (SHORT) summary
please explain the difference between an illegal multi acc and an legal transition team... in case you cant, dear admins DELETE all known teams include ex - riders and any possible statistc entry...
thx

cheers deuse

der aussage von deuse kann ich nur zustimmen

so langsam fühlt man sich hier ein wenig veräppelt!

gruß huns

[luques]

please explain the difference between an illegal multi acc and an legal transition team... in case you cant, dear admins DELETE all known teams include ex - riders and any possible statistc entry...
thx

cheers deuse

Thanks, was waiting a translation

So here the fact are:

1) Racingstar is another PTT multi (transition team but always multi now especially because they played both the 1st August at GP Paris Est)
2) The ban was useless, between sitting and transition team he has played 30+ races in the month ban

[Pokemon Club]

PTT is a genious, this new concept of the transition team is just fantastic

[NoPikouze]

2 points of some importance imo :

1- Punition for multiaccounts seems to be to delete the secondary accounts and to leave the primary account as it was (here and on other topics). That is not a punition. When you drive to fast, if the police only asks you to follow the rules and drive slower, would that be very efficient? It might be more persuasive to delete the secondary accounts and to reset the primary account. Might be worth considering...

2- Some of the accounts PTT used are probably no real multiaccounts of him. Only accounts on which he did some sitting and for which he still has the passwords (ie. Maurice, Playboys and probably more). The guy PTT used to do A LOT of sittings. And I think those managers stopped playing, at least for a while. So it must have been quite tempting and easy.