Teamattacke h.15 ENECO group 2

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Teamattacke h.15 ENECO group 2

Post by auxilium torino » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:02 pm

i read that tonight on chat:
Cyclists United(22:15): gut ... wie verfährt man da jetzt`? im rennen hat sich keiner von denen beschwert
Wizards Cycling(22:05): Ja, ist Teamattacke.
Cyclists United(22:04): mal ne Frage: In Feld 2 heute bei der ENECO Tour, das war doch ne Teamattacke von Group Astana, oder? Feld 2; 15 Uhr; an km 155

Km: 155, Pendenza: 0
Tonyi Martin (Group Astana) Attacco al km
Gregor Schlirenzauer (Group Astana) Attacco al km
Heimar Perero (Group Astana) Attacco al km
Roderick Bolwerk (NL-Sport) non riesce la fuga con

01. 00:00:00 Heimar Perero (Group Astana)
02. 00:00:00 Gregor Schlirenzauer (Group Astana)
03. 00:00:00 Tonyi Martin (Group Astana)
04. 00:00:16 Aleksejs Saramotins (GermanTec )
05. 00:00:40 Nick Larsen (Red Mountain)
06. 00:00:41 Miklos Csabi (Team DRS)
07. 00:01:04 Yannick Frei (Group Astana)
08. 00:01:04 Ruddie Pardon (NL-Sport)
09. 00:01:04 Franck Schlekk (Group Astana)
10. 00:01:04 Isaac Llaverde (bossteam)
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Re: Teamattacke h.15 ENECO group 2

Post by auxilium torino » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:11 pm

Interwiew

Interview del direttore sportivo Group Astana(16:48Uhr):
Sieg und Niederlage sind oft nur Millimeter auseinander, war es heute auch so?
Nein...heute war alles klar =)
Haben Sie den Sieg fair errungen?
Ja...ich wüsste nichts unfaires...

Sicher? Ganz sicher? Sie sind ja eigentlich als einer der unfairsten Manager überhaupt bekannt.
Wenn Sie meinen...höre ich aber zum ersten Mal^^
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Re: Teamattacke h.15 ENECO group 2

Post by Luna » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:18 pm

:lol:

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Re: Teamattacke h.15 ENECO group 2

Post by Widar » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:37 pm

Die drei Group Astana Fahrer auf die letzten drei Plätze setzen, die Platzierungen also aberkennen, ebenso die geholten Punkte und Credits für diese drei Plätze.

Neue Etappenwertung:

01. 00:00:16 Aleksejs Saramotins (GermanTec )
02. 00:00:40 Nick Larsen (Red Mountain)
03. 00:00:41 Miklos Csabi (Team DRS)
04. 00:01:04 Yannick Frei (Group Astana)
05. 00:01:04 Ruddie Pardon (NL-Sport)
06. 00:01:04 Franck Schlekk (Group Astana)
07. 00:01:04 Isaac Llaverde (bossteam)

Drittletzter. 00:00:00 Heimar Perero (Group Astana)
Vorletzter. 00:00:00 Gregor Schlirenzauer (Group Astana)
Letzter. 00:00:00 Tonyi Martin (Group Astana)

Dann kapiert auch Group Astana diese Fairnessregel!
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Re: Teamattacke h.15 ENECO group 2

Post by Buhmann » Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:27 am

Very silly...but why have´t anybody says something against it and let him win?
CI won´t change the result like Widar suggest. I could take Group Astana out of the race. Maybe thats a adequate penalty for him.

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Re: Teamattacke h.15 ENECO group 2

Post by Lizard » Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:45 am

I think no one really has seen it, I took notice of it when it was posted in the global chat. Penalty seems to be a good solution, but it should be pointed out that he is riding against the rules to stop him from retrying this .. seems like he has never tried to focus on the fairplay rules for a second. (is this a single time or happening more frequently?)
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Re: Teamattacke h.15 ENECO group 2

Post by auxilium torino » Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:08 am

I think, the problem was, that in the group are all new players, and nobody know the rule(I think that nobody read the rule)
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Re: Teamattacke h.15 ENECO group 2

Post by team fl » Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:27 am

fairness thing in the chat is working very well, i see :)
I didn't mean to say it. But I meant what I said.

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Re: Teamattacke h.15 ENECO group 2

Post by Luna » Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:31 pm

But he should at least be stripped off of the win and his palmares entry

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Re: Teamattacke h.15 ENECO group 2

Post by team fl » Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:01 pm

Luna wrote:But he should at least be stripped off of the win and his palmares entry
yep, and the money (if this is not meant by "win")
I didn't mean to say it. But I meant what I said.

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Re: Teamattacke h.15 ENECO group 2

Post by claw » Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:39 pm

auxilium torino wrote:Interwiew

Interview del direttore sportivo Group Astana(16:48Uhr):
Sieg und Niederlage sind oft nur Millimeter auseinander, war es heute auch so?
Nein...heute war alles klar =)
Haben Sie den Sieg fair errungen?
Ja...ich wüsste nichts unfaires...

Sicher? Ganz sicher? Sie sind ja eigentlich als einer der unfairsten Manager überhaupt bekannt.
Wenn Sie meinen...höre ich aber zum ersten Mal^^

haha, of all the possible interviews, he got that one... :lol:
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Re: Teamattacke h.15 ENECO group 2

Post by Luna » Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:37 am

Group Astana(16:28): team attack von bossteam
Group Astana(16:28): team attack von bossteam
Group Astana(16:27): team attack von bossteam


At least he knows that the others are not allowed to attack with more than 2 ^^

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Re: Teamattacke h.15 ENECO group 2

Post by auxilium torino » Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:05 am

Luna wrote:Group Astana(16:28): team attack von bossteam
Group Astana(16:28): team attack von bossteam
Group Astana(16:27): team attack von bossteam


At least he knows that the others are not allowed to attack with more than 2 ^^
I controll, and was not a team attack, but was all regular :roll:
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Re: Teamattacke h.15 ENECO group 2

Post by Buhmann » Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:41 pm

Da das betroffene Team leider nicht hierauf reagiert hat, gibts jetzt ohne ihn zu hören eine Geldstrafe. Strafmindert ist, dass da irgendwie keiner was gesagt hat und ich geneigt bin zu glauben dass er nicht wußte was er da tat.

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