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Post by cataracs » Mon Aug 25, 2025 7:55 pm

2. Offensive Language
Defamatory false accusations of players in their role as a volunteer (Developer, FPC member, NC member, Calendar Manager, Race Designer or other role), in particular falsely accusing them of manipulations to their own advantage with the effect of harming the game’s reputation.
Schartner Bombe(20:49): ... der hot a menge baustölln hier ... we would say in austria
Schartner Bombe(20:48): ... have to ask it again. why is such a manager calender planer? he is not neutral.
Schartner Bombe(20:43): ... means, he doesnt take my race designs, because he is Schartner hater?
Schartner Bombe(20:41): @Gipfelstuermer: what does that mean? and why is he calender planner, if he is not serious?
Schartner Bombe(16:44): next month you should again races for your team, as Calender-Master, maybe that helps?
There are more accusations aswell (no need to go look for them what's here is already enough).

This idiotic claims by this person who uses their mouth(or fingers to type) before using their brain, had me waste a lot of my precious time to go check again if I'm actually doing wrong.

I demand sincere apologies(if not then a ban for being so disrespectful) and a BIG fine for this bulllshit.


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Post by bergwerk cycling » Mon Aug 25, 2025 9:38 pm

Und hattest du eigentlich das Rennen heute gewonnen wenn du schon so eine dicke Fresse hast????


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Post by flockmastoR » Tue Aug 26, 2025 8:05 am

bergwerk cycling wrote:
Mon Aug 25, 2025 9:38 pm
Und hattest du eigentlich das Rennen heute gewonnen wenn du schon so eine dicke Fresse hast????


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Du könntest mal auch dein eigenes Verhalten reflektieren. Oder wie würdest du deine Kommentare hier werten würden sie von taka kommen in einem Fairplay thread den du eröffnest in dem er gar nicht mal erwähnt wird?
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Post by bergwerk cycling » Tue Aug 26, 2025 8:50 am

Ganz genau darum geht es mir ... ich will die Kommentare über mich nicht lesen!

und deshalb kommt auf jeden seiner Kommentare einer von mir dazu! Das bezog sich übrigens auf, dass er kurz zuvor gepostet hatte.
Mir geht das mächtig auf den Sack und höre sofort damit auf - er muss es nur auch tun.
(hätte den Scheiß auch woanders posten können ... auch da geb ich dir Recht)




r GOD decision, fine of 44k. Keep quiet next time!
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Post by team fl » Tue Aug 26, 2025 9:09 am

Du magst es nicht, also machst du es bei ihm auch. Ihn scheint es nicht zu stören, im Gegenteil. Lass ihn doch nicht gratis in deinem Kopf wohnen...

Und wenn du Gleiches mit Gleichem vergiltst, dann kannst du dich auch nicht mehr auf moralische Überlegenheit oder ähnliches berufen. Egal wer nun angefangen hat.

Wenn dir das alles egal ist, dann mach weiter so und habt Spass miteinander.
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Post by bergwerk cycling » Tue Aug 26, 2025 9:19 am

team fl wrote:
Tue Aug 26, 2025 9:09 am
Du magst es nicht, also machst du es bei ihm auch. Ihn scheint es nicht zu stören, im Gegenteil. Lass ihn doch nicht gratis in deinem Kopf wohnen...

Und wenn du Gleiches mit Gleichem vergiltst, dann kannst du dich auch nicht mehr auf moralische Überlegenheit oder ähnliches berufen. Egal wer nun angefangen hat.

Wenn dir das alles egal ist, dann mach weiter so und habt Spass miteinander.

Mir ist es überhaupt nicht egal ... mir geht selbst schon mein eigener Schwachsinn auf den Sack!

Ich warte auf ein Machtwort des FPC mit einem Ultimatum gegen taka und mich, sofort damit aufzuhören und wenn es weiter geht eine ordentliche Strafe xy zu zahlen! Sonst wird das hier wohl leider nix ... aber ich bin ab Donnerstag 10 Tage nicht da - vielleicht hilft mir das!

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Post by Elaska » Tue Aug 26, 2025 12:44 pm

What?
2024-01-30 Big Donkey Elaska 1 Good move, good reading of the race, just the sprint didn't work out. High quality racing.

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Post by team fl » Tue Aug 26, 2025 1:08 pm

Elaska wrote:
Tue Aug 26, 2025 12:44 pm
What?
The german part is not about r TAKA, it's about other players suggesting to bergwerk to stop his behaviour towards r TAKA. But he's adamant in his action until the FPC jumps in and tells him to stop. Wrong topic, I know, but bergwerk started here (again).
I didn't mean to say it. But I meant what I said.

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Post by bergwerk cycling » Tue Aug 26, 2025 1:14 pm

no no ... the fpc have to stopped us both! not me alone ... thats for sure the important thing

Or we make a great deal - he could just stop - you won't hear anything from me again immediately - that would be the easiest thing for all!

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Post by Schartner Bombe » Tue Aug 26, 2025 1:36 pm

cataracs wrote:
Mon Aug 25, 2025 7:55 pm
2. Offensive Language
Defamatory false accusations of players in their role as a volunteer (Developer, FPC member, NC member, Calendar Manager, Race Designer or other role), in particular falsely accusing them of manipulations to their own advantage with the effect of harming the game’s reputation.
Schartner Bombe(20:49): ... der hot a menge baustölln hier ... we would say in austria
Schartner Bombe(20:48): ... have to ask it again. why is such a manager calender planer? he is not neutral.
Schartner Bombe(20:43): ... means, he doesnt take my race designs, because he is Schartner hater?
Schartner Bombe(20:41): @Gipfelstuermer: what does that mean? and why is he calender planner, if he is not serious?
Schartner Bombe(16:44): next month you should again races for your team, as Calender-Master, maybe that helps?
There are more accusations aswell (no need to go look for them what's here is already enough).

This idiotic claims by this person who uses their mouth(or fingers to type) before using their brain, had me waste a lot of my precious time to go check again if I'm actually doing wrong.

I demand sincere apologies(if not then a ban for being so disrespectful) and a BIG fine for this bulllshit.
this textlines were from 19-08-25 and you start the day with:

r TAKA(13:47): congrats schartener you made the ugly interface even uglier
It's ok for me, but then he can't stand the echo?

Aside from the fact that you're trying to persuade the FPC to give me a penalty for the second time already—please post the whole text. And just as for the few lines you've ripped out—the fact that you're demanding a penalty for me for the second time (with all the announcements, fair play votes, etc. I get from you—I don't collect them, unfortunately)—makes me wonder if you're neutral toward me?
Because I don't get such announcements and fair play votes from other members in the FPC, ADmin, NC, etc. Nothing more, nothing less.

on 24-08-25
After this you asked/wrote me because of the Azores Cup races and I answered you - so I had the feeling, ok, my races are there.

but this 2nd try to fine me, the first try didnt work out, doesn't leave me in a good mood. But maybe make what you want.
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Post by Schartner Bombe » Tue Aug 26, 2025 3:15 pm

Schartner Bombe(16:44): next month you should (again) *design races for your team, as Calender-Master, maybe that helps?

ok found it. this is from the race 2025-08-13
That's from one of, thank God, a few races together.
Taka then gives his -3(OL, bergwerk, me) the next day, even with a provocative statement in the chat beforehand.
I'm fine with him doing it that way, but then he has to endure the backlash again and again. Now demanding a penalty is a somewhat one-sided miracle. Just to understand me. Besides, I haven't demanded a penalty for anything he said before.


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There have been disagreements before (not just with me),
but if he now uses the "calendar planner" as an argument, it's a joke. If he provokes, he's rTaka the manager, but if he gets the reaction, he's rTaka the calendar planner?
If the position of banner/NC-jersey designer existed, he would have insulted me with that rule, too. Or is the banner not something that contributes to the game? Or is it not that important?

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Post by Schartner Bombe » Tue Aug 26, 2025 5:05 pm

r Taka I wrote you a pm. maybe we can stop this Schartner vs. rTaka and vice versa this way.

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Post by cataracs » Tue Aug 26, 2025 8:19 pm

Sometimes I start some others times you start then we just shit talk, I don't care about that, never reported it. I only open a thread here if it actually bothers me.

Saying I make races for my team or I'm not neutral about using races has nothing to do with our usual trashtalk, it's straight defamation and faulse accusations for no reason. Don't tell me that was because I gave my opinion about your banner, you started saying this here and there way before, and you just wouldn't stop.

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Post by Schartner Bombe » Tue Aug 26, 2025 8:46 pm

I'm out of this thread.
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Post by Schartner Bombe » Thu Aug 28, 2025 1:46 pm

cataracs wrote:
Tue Aug 26, 2025 8:19 pm
Sometimes I start some others times you start then we just shit talk, I don't care about that, never reported it. I only open a thread here if it actually bothers me.

Saying I make races for my team or I'm not neutral about using races has nothing to do with our usual trashtalk, it's straight defamation and faulse accusations for no reason. Don't tell me that was because I gave my opinion about your banner, you started saying this here and there way before, and you just wouldn't stop.
never reported it? what was that then?

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=10188

Sorry Taka, but if you can't reply my pm with "okay" to my let's stop the kickhack, I'll have to continue defending myself here - even if it borders on absolute ridiculousness.

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Post by Schartner Bombe » Thu Aug 28, 2025 2:02 pm

that is the whole text.
In the context of the whole text, in my opinion, this looks different than what R. Taka presented.


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bergwerk(22:17): if you dont ban him plz make him quite!!! dont want to read his absolute bullshit anymore... unbeliebable ... how long should it go now?
bergwerk(22:09): Iam really not on place 1? 😱 Cant believe it .. i have to go in bed now and think over what i could do for it ...
ATB - Racing(21:55): good night everyone
ATB - Racing(21:55): hui cool, i am not wrong! :D
Gipfelstuermer(21:51): The evil thing, for now I take as a taka compliment
Gipfelstuermer(21:50): Insults, FPC will take a close look 🧐 and he knows
Gipfelstuermer(21:48): If he ignorés someone's races for no reason, would change of course, but so far he is doing a (good) job with the fantasy races and also helped publishing some real races
Gipfelstuermer(21:46): *has similar number of fairplay cases ^^
Yeah, funny anyway. You should have done it yourself: What kind of attitude? The question is, who else applied?
Gipfelstuermer(21:46): ATB is not wrong. There were 2 applications for the job and the other one Gas
r TAKA(21:38): Maybe check the races uploaded since I started. Pretty sure you and schappy are the top designers :)
r TAKA(21:37): What do you mean not neutral, this should be reported and you should get fined for it, but since I don't really care I just laugh at it xD
Schartner Bombe(21:01): @Gipfelstuermer(20:36): r TAKA stands for don't r TAKE him too seriously (good/evil/banner/whatever) ... Let him insult you at every opportunity. Are you a tree hugger or a sado maso Gip?

ATB - Racing(21:00): Not sure how good is it to be on any side
ATB - Racing(21:00): well i guess he applied for the job ... you can apply for it on your own
Schartner Bombe(20:49): ... der hot a menge baustölln hier ... we would say in austria
Schartner Bombe(20:48): ... have to ask it again. why is such a manager calender planer? he is not neutral.
Schartner Bombe(20:43): ... means, he doesnt take my race designs, because he is Schartner hater?
Schartner Bombe(20:41): @Gipfelstuermer: what does that mean? and why is he calender planner, if he is not serious?

Elaska(20:40): Not sure how good is it to be on the takaz side
Gipfelstuermer(20:36): r TAKA stands for don't r TAKE him too seriously (good/evil/banner/whatever)
SouthWest Packers(20:31): 🥳🥳🎉 iam on the good Side thx Taka 😁
Schartner Bombe(20:07): ... and because of people like rTaka, I wonder if I should even do anything for c4f anymore...
Schartner Bombe(20:05): What's not to understand about "I just wanted to convert the banner into English"? Are you a hater and an ignorant? Change it yourself.
Schappy(19:59): make it!
r TAKA(19:49): you could've changed the whole image to make a "change"
r TAKA(19:49): The banner looked bad the whole time in the new site, and the bright yellow looks very bad too.
r TAKA(19:48): ugly is for the eyes and hate is for the heart, two different things!
Schartner Bombe(19:40): ... only to say, "Hass" and "hässlich", so hate and ugly are one root in the German language ...
Schartner Bombe(19:37): Yes, have a competition, I have no problem with that. I said I'd just make the banner in English—to transform it from German—with respect to the old banner.
Pokemonogatari(19:18): Taka can do a banner contest and create his own banner to start I think
Schartner Bombe(19:10): "Mein Gott na?! RTaka is so hateful that he finds the banner ugly? Hmm, what can we do? You can make a different one. It must be easy enough for the almighty God of C4F.

Big Donkey(17:30): Yeah, nobody is informed of anything anymore, you have to read race chats where Alk is racing or sometimes when you get lucky it's the general chat if you want to know how the game works. But then you look for volunteers for the FAQ and manuals? Who should, nobody knows anything anymore.
Big Donkey(17:28): Alkworld(13:37): sorry, that's outdated ...
r TAKA(16:56): I pronounce his name wrong for real though
Team FL(16:44): Ha, nobody mentioning yet that it should be spelling, not pronouncing. Lazy chat!
Team FL(15:36): The only guy who is not succesful is you pronouncing his name.
r TAKA(15:06): succesful? Frust is anything but that
Team FL(15:04): But looks like he will be without much support too. Still happy if he's equally succesful :)
r TAKA(14:11): Lost intereston Frucht but Rocha looks promising
Team FL(14:00): It's beautiful. Like you holding hand with Fürchtegott Fürst :)
r TAKA(13:47): congrats schartener you made the ugly interface even uglier
NoMoreLulz(13:41): so it is random who gets deleted?
NoMoreLulz(13:41): no matter how long they have been on the market? I swear this particular rider was just on the market since 22h yesterday and is gone now :/
Alkworld(13:38): every few mins, single riders get deleted and new ones created
Alkworld(13:37): it's working like the youth market regarding rider generation
Alkworld(13:37): sorry, that's outdated ...
Bugatti(13:32): Manual: The Div6-7 buy-now market refreshes every few days on a random basis. On average, the refresh happens every 4 days and it is guaranteed that the market refreshes at least after 6 days.
Elaska(13:29): Ah sorry I don't know about d6
NoMoreLulz(13:28): but these riders came to the market yesterday and they are gone. there is no minimum value in div6, so that cant be the case
Elaska(13:25): Riders without a name
Elaska(13:24): All riders are gone if there is no bid for minimum 95% of their value
NoMoreLulz(13:06): its a 20y old one
NoMoreLulz(13:06): Are riders deleted in the div6 market sometimes? This night I saw one specific rider that is gone now, looking at transfer statistics it looks like no one has bought him
bergwerk(11:22): 👍
Schartner Bombe(11:12): Thanks. Glad you like it.
Team FL(11:07): Schartner Bombe.
Team FL(11:06): also mention the new banner! thanks to Scharnter!
Team FL(11:06): good idea.
Pokemonogatari(11:01): Maybe good to add a news to say that if you go for Benelux you can't go for Vuelta (as it is not published yet)
ATB - Racing(10:41): Well done Schartner (talking about the banner).

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Post by cataracs » Fri Aug 29, 2025 3:27 am

Why is this case being ignored? It's been more than 3 days....

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