Threat from Team SWE to soil my reputation with an unjustified negative fairness rating

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Threat from Team SWE to soil my reputation with an unjustified negative fairness rating

Post by Rockstar Inc » Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:45 pm

Let's have some fun with good ol' SWE

Situation:
Tour du Nigeria 21:00

A group of seven riders escaped out of the peloton. The gap was steady growing, not that big but ok.
Roundabout 50-60km to go:

TeamSWE: i ll join after
TeamSWE: leso/rock first plz
lesossies: fresh ones in ?
TeamSWE: shall we add green the fresh guys?

My fine answer:
Rockstar Inc: we should have added them a long time ago....green is now senseless...red or nothing

His answer:
TeamSWE: hmmm
TeamSWE: rock green the fresh for now and with all

My fine answer:
Rockstar Inc: but do as you like
Rockstar Inc: there are only 5x km left....

After another 5,6k i decided to let my riders fall, no chance for the group and i didn't want to waste energy

His reaction:
TeamSWE: -2 rock

My answer can be read in his fairness-thread, no excuse guilty as charged.

And now the fun begins...i remember a lot of sentences in the fairness-part of the forum that if person x feels hurt, insulted or in any way disturbed by actions or sentences of other teams, it's good old right of the team to open a thread

So here we go...

Why shouldn't i be able to decide if and when to drop my riders our a group?

Why should i receive a threat to my reputation by receiving an unjustified negative-fairness rating by another team? What if another team has a look onto my fairness-ratings and sees this negative rating, which marks me as "unfair" player and maybe doesn't want to ride in a group with me or has bad thoughts about my team?

Well of course, also the whole chat in this topic:
Rsc Spree: gw
lesossies: too old I need too much time to decide and act
Team Toto: if he hangs on your wheel 150 he wins i think
Team Toto: yes, but he didnt do both
Dickson PRT: or he could sprint himself
Team Toto: leso forgot hanging on miller at 150 ?
Rhodan Underdogs: gw
Team Hunsrueck: its a Taka Tour^^ GW
pontepiscopiens: gw
Dickson PRT: thank you
lesossies: gw
Hachen Cycling: gw Dickson
Team Toto: GW
Team Toto: to far away but better than yesterday :D
Team darsseul: best sprinter EU
Dickson PRT: lol
Dickson PRT: where are the other sprinters though
Team darsseul: Dickson i rode but i finish in top 5 lol !
TeamSWE: ah alina sprint a bit too long
TeamSWE: gw toto
Dickson PRT: Miller wins now
Hachen Cycling: and i thought all will hang on my train, so i decided to join Rhodans big train
Team darsseul: pont tu aurais fait ton train solo tu aurais pu gagner en plus je pense
lesossies: decided in lasat second to try my own train
TeamSWE: bah nelson weak
Dickson PRT: they had too much Glühwein
Team ABC-Polsat: same as yesterday
lesossies: where are the sprinters ?
Hachen Cycling: looks good for diffo
Dickson PRT: He's sprinting already
Team Hunsrueck: mhhh.. i think KUTIN WIN^^
Team Hunsrueck: guys like you are the reason why i play not often this game
TeamSWE: good night
Team Hunsrueck: I just can't listen to you anymore, comment on everything and can't win this tour
Rockstar Inc: today i'm in the mood...stay tuned for a real exaggerated thread :-)
TeamSWE: why you speak for him?
TeamSWE: obv
Team Hunsrueck: because he didn't want it
TeamSWE: yeah why do you? at least i am in the front group
Hachen Cycling: It's a chat, hun :-)
TeamSWE: and if he was so smart with his 500 wins...why not advising better before?
Team Hunsrueck: why can anyone comment on everything here
Rhodan Underdogs: i see Xmas is coming
TeamSWE: he did
Team Hunsrueck: why can't he decide for himself whether to leave the group
TeamSWE: and to destroy a reputation you need to have one
TeamSWE: i didn't even vote yet and never intended it. even you deserve a -2 for going out of a group with zero to lose
Rockstar Inc: reputation damn
Rockstar Inc: i'm just thinking if i should answer with another thread...something like "threat to destroy my repupation by giving an unjustified fairness rating"
Hachen Cycling: so compare toxic players with beer and pretzel players ;-) in a small community not so good. Often toxic players only think they are better. But it's a very big tpoic so cheers :-)
Dickson PRT: toxic players are too good usually and can't stand how dumb some people are
Team darsseul: it's the same thing in all game we have good player and toxic
Rockstar Inc: +n
Rockstar Inc: have to say funny guy....i really dislike the donkey, but i tend to understad why he dislikes you
Hachen Cycling: Still the same since 2009, some nice managers, some toxic managers :-) not Newbee-friendly at all :-)
Team ABC-Polsat: you are pathetic teamswe. thats all i'm saying today
TeamSWE: 500 stage wins but still not knowing how to behave
Team Hunsrueck: pfffff.... like a real pussy
Dickson PRT: lol
TeamSWE: http://www.radsportfreaks.de/RSFForum/v ... =16&t=7895
Rockstar Inc: @swe: listen moron...out of my over 500 stage wins, roughly 300 or more are from sprints...i guess i know a thing or two about escapes, energy management or gaps between escapers and the peloton...if i said something about "joining a while ago" or "red or nothing"...there's some thruth to it
lesossies: not patient enough rock
Rockstar Inc: lol
TeamSWE: -2 rock
lesossies: I am in red and we could take the weak ones out
Dickson PRT: there are less than 50km left and you still want to ride blue that's sad
Dickson PRT: it requires a few races
TeamSWE: he created this game which requires iq 140+
Rockstar Inc: but do as you like
TeamSWE: prt thats an insult to buhmann!
Rockstar Inc: there are only 5x km left....
Dickson PRT: yes sadly :D the game dosen't even demand high intelligence
TeamSWE: hmmm
TeamSWE: rock green the fresh for now and with all
Rockstar Inc: we should have added them a long time ago....green is now senseless...red or nothing
Rhodan Underdogs: @pRockstan Inc: perhaps you got to improve you persuasive power or just drink more Glühwein
TeamSWE: i ll join after
TeamSWE: leso/rock first plz
lesossies: fresh ones in ?
TeamSWE: shall we add green the fresh guys?
lesossies: too much Glühwein, would I say
Rockstar Inc: @taka: one perfect reason why i stopped rsf a few years ago and now only ride from time to time...you're too dependent one semi-intelligent way of riding...just like last month where i would have won my tour against roha, but three other teams decided to decide the tour
Dickson PRT: not only that but sometimes, races get added to the calendar without him doing it.
Team darsseul: i play just 2month / year that why i'm so noob ;)
lesossies: he must look in the database
Rockstar Inc: according to him since 2 months races who are in the calendar disappear regularly
Team darsseul: top 50 for ever !
Dickson PRT: there darsseul riding for place 80
lesossies: no idea whats happened
TeamSWE: yeah he is bad customer
Rhodan Underdogs: cause he got RSF-lifetime licence
Rhodan Underdogs: lol
TeamSWE: donkey removing them for fun ;)
lesossies: no
Rockstar Inc: leso are you aware of the problems with calendar and the occasional disappearing of races?
Dickson PRT: the group has little chances today so better just work together
Rsc Spree: bad style
Hachen Cycling: but i won't kill that group, cause it's not my playstyle, like yesterday when i fall back instead of start a discussion about sucking or riding for place 6-7
Hachen Cycling: ;-)
TeamSWE: he cannot sprint anyway
TeamSWE: so what
Dickson PRT: Hachen*
Dickson PRT: Hacen plans on killing the group
TeamSWE: blue
Rockstar Inc: let's also speed up
TeamSWE: today not even p5 stage hunting...no p15 mdr
Team darsseul: mais aujourd'hui le sprint va bien changer
Team darsseul: en soit en partant plus tot avec ton petit train tu faisait top 5 normalement
Team darsseul: ahah
pontepiscopiens: j'ai rien d'autre à faire, je vise une15 eme au sprint, j'essaierais de pas prendre la roue de totoce soir!
Rockstar Inc: back
lesossies: te fatigue pas Ponte ca vaut pas le coup ;)
Hachen Cycling: Good Evening all :-)
TeamSWE: just let 20 mins for the group plz
Dickson PRT: I'm not riding like yesterday toto, when this sucky teams with better sprinters ride I'll join.
lesossies: Hi we need only 5 minutes no problem for GC
Rockstar Inc: looks like a stabile situation...will go take a shower quickly..back in a few minutes
TeamSWE: save your energy for tomorrow ttt
Team darsseul: ahah ;)
TeamSWE: gg group ;)
Rockstar Inc: HI
Rsc Spree: heho
Team darsseul: hello hello
pontepiscopiens: hi all
Team Hunsrueck: Toto maybe block the first Km
Team Hunsrueck: hej au sdem hunsrueck
Dickson PRT: hello
Long story, short review...usually i give a fuck about fairness-rating, but in this case i'm really in the mood to open this thread.

In addition to my words, you're able to read some other options of other managers, in the chat above, commenting/rating SWEs behavior
"I'm an old-school sprinter. I can't climb a mountain but if I am in front with 200 metres to go then there's nobody who can beat me.” Mark Cavendish, at the 2007 Eneco Tour

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Re: Threat from Team SWE to soil my reputation with an unjustified negative fairness rating

Post by kunske » Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:48 pm

Why can not everybody respect each others decisions how they will ride.
Everybody has his own style of riding.

But the FPC will look at it.

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