La Vuelta a España 2022

[lennylenny]

17: 159km middle mountain (Vuelta classifies as flat with uphill finish, Flamme Rouge as middle mountain)
checked results of last year, stages 3 and 6 were flat with uphill finish, stage 3 gave 20-17-15-13-11-10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 while stage 6 gave 30-25-22-19-17-15-13-11-9-7-6-5-4-3-2


18: 189km mountain

[Hansa]

Stage 9 done, with mountain points still adjusted since Hansa gave a good argument for it (and we had that same adjusted mountain points last year)
will do Stage 17 next

but for this year we have 2 possibilities then we can 1 either keep it as it is and give the 20-15-10-6-4-2 points for the HC categorie and dont have Cat 4 mountains

or 2nd we still shift them down and wont have any Cat 1 mountains then.

[Robyklebt]

We can streamline that later, no problem.
Not designing today, sleeping, if there's something left for the Vuelta tomorrow again.

I think I will put the Vuelta online very fast, so 25th or 26th. BUT since the intermediates or not there yet, will then take it offline again after the month change then wait for the IS to appear on the Vuelta site. So the GPM streamlining can be done then too.

[Gipfelstuermer]

Thanks lennylenny and RKL for designing this so far.

That gave me time to improve team- and calendar-layout a little bit.

I suppose you are finishing it off soon. Let me know if you don't have time. Then I can try to finish it Monday/Tuesday.

[lennylenny]

I can do all three remaining ones until Lunch today, maybe RKL can take a look at Getxo then

19: 132km middle mountain 67km lap, but second lap finishes two km earlier, made sure everything lines up over the two laps


20: 176km mountain


21: 101km flat

[Robyklebt]

Oh, was going to have time in the evening, but if it's done even better.

Will put it online temporarily as announce tomorrow. Checks until then please.

[lennylenny]

completed all remaining stages

[RS Coesitz]

Does stage 18 has the correct name? Can´t find its profile...

Thanks for drawing all the stages! Great work again!

[lennylenny]

Does stage 18 has the correct name? Can´t find its profile...

Thanks for drawing all the stages! Great work again!

oops, made a spelling mistake there, it is saved as vuellta22_18

[Hansa]

You are right. Seems same as last year and same as TDF:

Maximum amounts of points: 50 – 30 – 20 – 18 – 16 – 14 – 12 – 10 – 8 – 7 – 6 – 5 – 4 – 3 – 2

Medium amount of points: 30 – 25 – 22 – 19 – 17 – 15 – 13 – 11 – 9 – 7 – 6 – 5 – 4 – 3 – 2

Minimum amount of points: 20 – 17 – 15 – 13 – 11 – 10 – 9 – 8 – 7 – 6 – 5 – 4 – 3 – 2 – 1

https://www.cyclingstage.com/vuelta-202 ... ification/

But mountains jersey is different from TDF:

Cima Alberto Fernandez: 20 – 15 – 10 – 6 – 4 – 2
HC: 15 – 10 – 6 – 4 – 2
1st category: 10 – 6 – 4 – 2 – 1
2nd category: 5 – 3 – 1
3rd category: 3 – 2 – 1

https://www.cyclingstage.com/vuelta-202 ... ification/

Will try to change on-time. Alkworld knows how to do it and will be back from holoday before start of Vuelta.

The race will award 10, 6 and 4 seconds to the first three riders of
each stage (except TT), and with 3, 2 and 1 second to the first three
riders to cross each intermediate sprint or bonus sprints located on
specific climbs


Amount of points in intermediate sprints (all stages, except ITTs): 20 – 17 – 15 – 13 – 10

i think time bonis and points for intermedians was not posted earlier just for completion

[lennylenny]

intermediate sprints are now visible on the official site: https://www.lavuelta.es/en/stage-2

so how do we do the mountain points now? scaled 1 cat down or keep Vuelta cat?

[Robyklebt]

No hurry, I won't upload the definite version before the new month anyway. For form this version works fine.

IS: Put in, I will in "my" stages soon... might be Monday though, my busy weekend with horse races coming, usually collapse into bed early on Sundays.

GPM: I say depends on Alkfelstuerld: If they already programmed it for one way or another, we'll do that.
If nothing is done yet I would recommend to follow the Vuelta classification, otherwise we will have to answer the same question every 2 days, "why is this cat 2 it's cat 1 in reality!!!!!!" But as I said, if the programmers already did it for that system, leave it, we change the GPM.

[lennylenny]

during checking for the intermediate sprints I noticed my first stage being like 3km off the profile on the vuelta page, then I also checked if the profiles on the Vuelta page are the same length as the profiles in the roadbooks.
Result: wildly different, some stages same length in both, some stages shorter in Roadbook, some stages longer in roadbook, so I guess we keep the current profiles and just say F the Vuelta organizers?

[Robyklebt]

Yes, nothing to worry about. We work with the stuff that we get, so if there's contradictory info... not much we can do.

[lennylenny]

so while moving all my cats to the original level i also noticed a few changes on the website:
Stage 2: Cat 3 -> Cat 4
Stage 3: added Cat 4
Stage 8: added Cat 3
Stage 9: Cat 2 -> Cat 3 (Alto de la Llama)
Stage 14: added Cat 3
Stage 15: added Cat 3
Stage 20:Cat 3 -> Cat 2 (Puerto de Canencia)

changes of Stages 8,9 and 20 are already completed

[flockmastoR]

Hey! Just noticed in the calender, that Vuelta is shown as Category 4, should be 5!

[Robyklebt]

Dumb RKL

[Alkworld]

and with 3, 2 and 1 second to the first three
riders to cross each intermediate sprint or bonus sprints located on
specific climbs

Any idea what the bold part might mean? If it's on a certain climb, we could implement it, otherwise maybe better to ignore it?

[Robyklebt]

2 examples:





The B means bonifications I figured. From the text above it seems that all intermediates give this bonification, but looking at the profile to me it seems that it's once every stage, and either at the intermediate or on a GPM....

[Alkworld]

2 examples:
...
The B means bonifications I figured. From the text above it seems that all intermediates give this bonification, but looking at the profile to me it seems that it's once every stage, and either at the intermediate or on a GPM....

This we can't implement with the current C4F. My suggestion would be to do the usual 3-2-1 at every intermediate sprint.