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Schartners Trash Stages

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2023 7:44 pm
by Schartner Bombe
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designed "The Hallelujah Trail"
4days Tour, 3 Flat-Stages, 1 Epilog as ITT.
Going from Julesberg to Denver.

Sep 28°/10°
Oct 20°/3°
Nov 14°/-3°
pick your month, but denver is in dire need of whiskey ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hallelujah_Trail



Stage 1: Flat

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Stage 2: Flat

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Stage 3: Flat

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Stage 4: ITT
last 4 km:
8 9 10 11%

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Re: Schartners Trash Stages

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 6:18 pm
by Schartner Bombe
Bloody Sunday Memorial Race:
also named the Bogside Massacre on 30 January 1972.
14 rounds in Derry.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_(1972)




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Re: Schartners Trash Stages

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2023 4:09 pm
by Schartner Bombe
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Race with Paves from Victorville to the "Titty Twister" near Ghost Town.
special thanks to Robert Rodriguez.



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Re: Schartners Trash Stages

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2023 6:11 pm
by Carry Rhodan
great job, Dude! 👍

Re: Schartners Trash Stages

Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 7:12 pm
by Schartner Bombe
did 2 races from "2023 UEC Road European Championships" which are at 20-24 Sep - think we dont have the real dates.
But my idea was to have this real races and ride them every year - so we have history.
Would call this event "European Open" so every nation can ride it.


Road Race Men Elite
The road race is decided on the mountain, jokingly known as Col du VAM or Dak van Drenthe. first from the side with 4% and in my opinion rsf cobblestones **** and at the very end apparently steeper from another side - I did 5% and **** - finish is downhill.
but have a look yourself and tell me what could be changed to be better.
cobblestones look like this.
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2nd race is the ITT which we have every month - so we could also use this one in Sep

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Re: Schartners Trash Stages

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:00 pm
by Schartner Bombe
The Magnificent Seven(1960)
was filmed in locations throughout Mexico, including the city of Durango.
would say a flat race at unimagined heights with pavements and 7 riders per team.
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Re: Schartners Trash Stages

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:21 pm
by Schartner Bombe
a 3 day Tour in Crete if neede in october.
hilly with some paves,
mountain with long climb(steepest 7%, 8%) - last km161 till 168; 6 8 4 -5 -1 3 4 6,
ITT.

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Re: Schartners Trash Stages

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:54 pm
by flockmastoR
Schartner Bombe wrote:
Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:21 pm
a 3 day Tour in Crete if neede in october.
hilly with some paves,
mountain with long climb(steepest 7%, 8%) - last km161 till 168; 6 8 4 -5 -1 3 4 6,
ITT.

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You created it as category 2. Please keep in mind that fantasy stage races (except Tour de Paves, December Tour, January Tour, Andes) will be raced as category 1.

Re: Schartners Trash Stages

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:47 pm
by Schartner Bombe
flockmastoR wrote:
Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:54 pm
Schartner Bombe wrote:
Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:21 pm
a 3 day Tour in Crete if neede in october.
hilly with some paves,
mountain with long climb(steepest 7%, 8%) - last km161 till 168; 6 8 4 -5 -1 3 4 6,
ITT.

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You created it as category 2. Please keep in mind that fantasy stage races (except Tour de Paves, December Tour, January Tour, Andes) will be raced as category 1.

oh, yes thx - mistake

Re: Schartners Trash Stages

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 8:26 pm
by Schartner Bombe
EROICA SERIES will come

Re: Schartners Trash Stages

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:06 pm
by cataracs
*** is too much, should be just * or **max in my opinion.

Re: Schartners Trash Stages

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:53 pm
by Gipfelstuermer
Schartner Bombe wrote:
Sat Sep 30, 2023 8:26 pm
my interpretion of this race - tried to imitate the real thing :-)
cataracs wrote:
Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:06 pm
*** is too much, should be just * or **max in my opinion.
Jep, very nice race. Wondering, if you are the first one, or maybe it was ridden in the past in C4F?

It could follow the Strade Bianche philosophy:

First 3km of a gravel sector * and then ** (to simulate that it gets harder and harder, the longer a sector is).

What would also be nice, if you can add more cities / maybe even names of the gravel sectors. Some of them are well known for Strade Bianche fans ;-)

Re: Schartners Trash Stages

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 7:52 pm
by Schartner Bombe
Gipfelstuermer wrote:
Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:53 pm
Schartner Bombe wrote:
Sat Sep 30, 2023 8:26 pm
my interpretion of this race - tried to imitate the real thing :-)
cataracs wrote:
Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:06 pm
*** is too much, should be just * or **max in my opinion.
Jep, very nice race. Wondering, if you are the first one, or maybe it was ridden in the past in C4F?

It could follow the Strade Bianche philosophy:

First 3km of a gravel sector * and then ** (to simulate that it gets harder and harder, the longer a sector is).

What would also be nice, if you can add more cities / maybe even names of the gravel sectors. Some of them are well known for Strade Bianche fans ;-)
if I have time I will search for it - or some other disigner goes on with that - its possible to work in an others race or not?

Re: Schartners Trash Stages

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 8:42 pm
by Schartner Bombe
Vuelta Ciclística a Cuba
1964-2010
I have interpreted the tour in 13 stages without restday.

Stage 1: 197km
mixture flat/hilly with 6% at km 170
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Stage 2: 185km
km 165-167 ... ** 1 2 1 6%
km 172-173 ... 8 6%
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Stage 3: 179km
km 168-179 ... 4 3 12 7 6 9 12 11 11 5 13 8 6 2 -1%
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Stage 4:158km
dirty road in the middle with 15% and * or **
km 111-117 ... 16 12 10 11 2 7 5%
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Stage 5: 175km
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Stage 6: 179km
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Stage 7: ITT 40km
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Stage 8: 152km
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Stage 9: 149km
km 104-105 ... 9 12%
last 5 km ... 1 1 1 3 9%
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Stage 10: 156km
km 132-144 ... 2 1 4 2 6 2 2 5 4 10 15 3 4%
km 150-156 ... 3 4 15 14 9 -3 4%
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Stage 11: 171km
till 15%
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Stage 12: 150km
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Stage 13: 153km
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Re: Schartners Trash Stages

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 4:38 pm
by Schartner Bombe
Bergwerk gave me an idea today for an one day race.
It is called "Man from Atlantis" and is a ride across the water between Key Largo and Key West(USA).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_from_Atlantis

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Re: Schartners Trash Stages

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 5:07 pm
by Robyklebt
Hm... what's the pavé for? Or where does it come from? Can't imagine this road having cobbles or gravel...

Re: Schartners Trash Stages

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 6:16 pm
by Schartner Bombe
Robyklebt wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2023 5:07 pm
Hm... what's the pavé for? Or where does it come from? Can't imagine this road having cobbles or gravel...
This occurs in my fantasy, if it also occurred in your fantasy it would be scary to me :)
it's a fantasy race? only

Re: Schartners Trash Stages

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 6:52 pm
by Schartner Bombe
Gipfelstuermer wrote:
Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:53 pm
Schartner Bombe wrote:
Sat Sep 30, 2023 8:26 pm
my interpretion of this race - tried to imitate the real thing :-)
cataracs wrote:
Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:06 pm
*** is too much, should be just * or **max in my opinion.
Jep, very nice race. Wondering, if you are the first one, or maybe it was ridden in the past in C4F?

It could follow the Strade Bianche philosophy:

First 3km of a gravel sector * and then ** (to simulate that it gets harder and harder, the longer a sector is).

What would also be nice, if you can add more cities / maybe even names of the gravel sectors. Some of them are well known for Strade Bianche fans ;-)

ok - refreshed this race - mayby you will have a look on it :-)

Re: Schartners Trash Stages

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 6:55 pm
by Schartner Bombe
cataracs wrote:
Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:06 pm
*** is too much, should be just * or **max in my opinion.
thx for comment, did a refresh of this race

Re: Schartners Trash Stages

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 3:04 pm
by Gipfelstuermer
Schartner Bombe wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2023 4:38 pm

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I drove this road and I cannot remember any pavé there?

Re: Schartners Trash Stages

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 3:44 pm
by Schartner Bombe
Gipfelstuermer wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2023 3:04 pm
Schartner Bombe wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2023 4:38 pm

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I drove this road and I cannot remember any pavé there?
often people have so called "false memory" - I wasn't there, but in my imagined memory it is there?
maybe because its a fantasy-race?

Re: Schartners Trash Stages

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 3:53 pm
by Gipfelstuermer
Schartner Bombe wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2023 3:44 pm
often people have so called "false memory" - I wasn't there, but in my imagined memory it is there?
maybe because its a fantasy-race?
There are fantasy races and then there are fantasy fantasy races. Freedom for all race designers ! :)

Re: Schartners Trash Stages

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 4:01 pm
by Schartner Bombe
Gipfelstuermer wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2023 3:53 pm
Schartner Bombe wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2023 3:44 pm
often people have so called "false memory" - I wasn't there, but in my imagined memory it is there?
maybe because its a fantasy-race?
There are fantasy races and then there are fantasy fantasy races. Freedom for all race designers ! :)

But if no one likes it, I'll just delete part of my sick fantasy. which will be funny in this case because the discussion remains, but the race then appears without paves. :D

Re: Schartners Trash Stages

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 4:17 pm
by Schartner Bombe
Schartner Bombe wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2023 4:38 pm
Bergwerk gave me an idea today for an one day race.
It is called "Man from Atlantis" and is a ride across the water between Key Largo and Key West(USA).
I had two muses who corrected my false memory. Now the race is like in real life, although it is a fantasy race.
As a result, my subconscious now has a name: Big Donkey Gimpfelstuermer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_from_Atlantis

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Re: Schartners Trash Stages

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 4:20 pm
by Schartner Bombe
Robyklebt wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2023 5:07 pm
Hm... what's the pavé for? Or where does it come from? Can't imagine this road having cobbles or gravel...
thanks for comment - you're a muse - but which cobbles did you see when you were there :)