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Campeonato de los Andes 2011
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:58 pm
by Aixteam
Hi all ,
I know it's maybe too early to talk about Anden but I think it's needed. Why ? The two designers (Cerro & Rasmussen) who are able to design seem to have stopped RSF. And Anden is a big big work. I rode with Alk last sunday and he said me we'll probably use an old version of Anden. Why ? It would be so bad. So I looked for some ideas, just to see if I'm able to do an interesting Anden. I proposed one of them to Ol, who is IMO one of the best designer here, and he found it very good. He even said he would be happy to help me.
I have never designed anything important for RSF, just 4 or 5 fantasy races but I would be happy to do Anden. Can I ?

Re: Campeonato de los Andes 2011
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:19 pm
by Robyklebt
I think yes, brillant, we were waiting for somebody. Anybody.
But don't let OL help you too much... do it yourself! OL help will only hurt him since then I will use it in the fight for the dec tour, he had half of the Andes, no OL!!! Hihihi...
Re: Campeonato de los Andes 2011
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:24 pm
by olmania
Robyklebt wrote:I think yes, brillant, we were waiting for somebody. Anybody.
But don't let OL help you too much... do it yourself! OL help will only hurt him since then I will use it in the fight for the dec tour, he had half of the Andes, no OL!!! Hihihi...
No worries, I am not in the competition this year for December Tour

Re: Campeonato de los Andes 2011
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:24 pm
by NoPikouze
It's not easy to find roads there, have fun with google earth
About the december tour, I will win the contest anyway My Apesty. Don't bother.
Re: Campeonato de los Andes 2011
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:29 pm
by Aixteam
NoPikouze wrote:It's not easy to find roads there, have fun with google earth
Why should we have roads ?

Re: Campeonato de los Andes 2011
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:34 pm
by Robyklebt
Ok.. no roads???
Get another designer!
But seriously, follow roads, unpaved ones ok, but roads. That's nr 1.
Nr 2 is: Tracks for bikers is not good enough for that i fear. You need to go with google earth, even better google earth tracks followed by the GPS track analyzer thingy.
Re: Campeonato de los Andes 2011
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:43 pm
by Luna
Good approach! Thought about raising this topic just some days ago, without being able to offer any solution.
Maybe you could PM to Cerro for some advice about finding suitable roads and/or climbs. Maybe he still has set his email notification if receiving a PM. If not probably Buhmann could forward an email to him.
Re: Campeonato de los Andes 2011
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:33 pm
by lesossies
Is anybody designing Campeonato de los Andes ?
November is not far away anymore
Re: Campeonato de los Andes 2011
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:59 pm
by olmania
lesossies wrote:Is anybody designing Campeonato de los Andes ?
November is not far away anymore
Aix is working on it.
First stages will arrive soon here

Re: Campeonato de los Andes 2011
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 5:37 pm
by Aixteam
Presentation when everything will be done.
TTT in mountain. We had one at Jura in 2008 I think, and I found that interesting. This one is longer, but less hard.
It's a short stage, because the teams would be dead after the TTT .. But it's not an easy one, and the leaders with reg can make a first gap there.
Normally it's a flat stage, to have back some power. But we have 5-4% 8kms before the end ..
First HC stage. I don't think we'll see much attacks before the last hill, but it is possible. Last hill : 13-14-17-8
The nice Monte Patria :
Easy stage. Last hill : 5-10-6-8-5-12
Maybe the hardest stage. Only 156km, but almost only up. The camino al infierno is not that hard, but it is very long. And the second hill of the day is awfull.
Rest day in San Jose de Jachal. Nice city !
Flat stage, the second one. There is a 9, but it should not be a problem... But you have to be online.
One of my favorite stage due to the fact there is no downhill between the hills. You can animate the race there.
Last hill : 6-7-7-8-8-8-9
This one is hard too, due to the paves, and the big hill. Maybe it will hard to attack, but you can do something. Last km : 6%
The circuit in Uspallata might be dangerous. 9-8-8-5-5-5 . You'll have to decide at which km you can attack, because there is no flat km so a climber can escape well.
It's an hard day .. Only up with dead teams, even some of the teams would have lost riders.
Middle mountain stage, the big teams can make the decision there.
Flat stage, but you have to be online from the beginning !
45kms of flat ITT. Maybe you have to tactic, because it's long, but not too long.
The stages are saved as : cdlaa1101, cdlaa1102 , etc etc .. if you want to see the details. Have fun.
Re: Campeonato de los Andes 2011
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 5:41 pm
by Robyklebt
Aix, use the "new" profiles! Or is the retro look on purpose?
Re: Campeonato de los Andes 2011
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 5:42 pm
by Aixteam
Robyklebt wrote:Aix, use the "new" profiles! Or is the retro look on purpose?
Go in the chat !
Re: Campeonato de los Andes 2011
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 9:51 pm
by Alkworld
On stage 9, you are using pavé on 10+%. You entered it as 2014 and 1013, which I think is 10 and 20* pavé. As far as I remember 214 and 113 are correct. I think we had the same problem in a race in the last two or three months, but don't remember which one.
Re: Campeonato de los Andes 2011
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:46 am
by lesossies
I can make little corrections little this and, if necessary, transponation in the new design, later, if it helps .
Concentrate on the race

Re: Campeonato de los Andes 2011
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:40 am
by Aixteam
It should be over .. If you need more informations, I'm still there.
Re: Campeonato de los Andes 2011
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:14 am
by Robyklebt
Where? Where are you! There? Where?
Mmh, would have liked to see those little things, wait
http://www.radsportfreaks.de/radsport/p ... =cdlaa1101
but since leso should put it online soon, no need to. Now I have something to analyze at least here, mmh
Re: Campeonato de los Andes 2011
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:16 am
by lesossies
it seems all Ok.
Can I put it online ?
Re: Campeonato de los Andes 2011
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:31 am
by Aixteam
Normally you can.
Re: Campeonato de los Andes 2011
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:12 pm
by gaurain rx
CAMPEONATOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO... Thanks Aix
Re: Campeonato de los Andes 2011
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:48 pm
by Alkworld
Looks good. Thx! Even though you lifted Puente del Inca by more than 1000m

Re: Campeonato de los Andes 2011
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:00 pm
by Aixteam
Alkworld wrote:Looks good. Thx! Even though you lifted Puente del Inca by more than 1000m

The arrival is not really at Puente del Inca, but after. Puente del Inca was the last name I had on the road, so I put it.
Re: Campeonato de los Andes 2011
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:34 pm
by skull
and the last stage is a 45km sprinter race ?
Re: Campeonato de los Andes 2011
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:54 am
by Pokemon Club
skull wrote:and the last stage is a 45km sprinter race ?
it is a ITT
Re: Campeonato de los Andes 2011
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:20 pm
by NoPikouze
St. 2 is high mountains, is that allright ?
Then I thought, oh no middle mountains stages, only flat or high mountains, ok must be on purpose.
But, stage 12 is middle mountain and really tough compared to stage 2.
Can you check it, Aix ?
Re: Campeonato de los Andes 2011
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:14 am
by Aixteam
When I have a look at Stage 2 now, you're right. The difference between the two is due to the fact I designed the first in august, and the last in october .. I send a PM to Leso, thanks.