December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!
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December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!
Same rules as last year I suppose:
If there are any changes by leso, please post them here, otherwise the rules are these:
Tour limits:
10-14 days with max. 1 rest day and max. 1 day with 2 half-stages.
No extrem tour:
No extrem mountainous tour like Anden or an extrem cobbles-tour like sachsen nor en extrem flat one)
Design Time :
until 31.October.
Presentation in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=14&t=3963
Here we can discuss, praise, criticize etc all the presented tours!
If there are any changes by leso, please post them here, otherwise the rules are these:
Tour limits:
10-14 days with max. 1 rest day and max. 1 day with 2 half-stages.
No extrem tour:
No extrem mountainous tour like Anden or an extrem cobbles-tour like sachsen nor en extrem flat one)
Design Time :
until 31.October.
Presentation in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=14&t=3963
Here we can discuss, praise, criticize etc all the presented tours!
Kraftsystemrevision! Include the distance!
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.
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Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!
What about TTT ? In the first tiers of the tour like real or no particular rule ?
Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!
People why don't you put your full tours ?

Vea Olio : how did you create this uphill details for all of your hills in Italy ? Is there a program for this ? Seems awesome !

Vea Olio : how did you create this uphill details for all of your hills in Italy ? Is there a program for this ? Seems awesome !
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Because I am affraid by my computer which make unpredictable blue screen ^^olmania wrote:People why don't you put your full tours ?
Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!
Please dear contestants... Post your tour when it's done with full presentation! Salami tactic is stupid, at least it gives you minus points from my side 
About the tours:
- Gita Italia: Italy, really? Can't write much about the profiles as there are only three so far... But Italy? There are enough stage races in Italy during the real cycling calender, no need for a fantasy one for the december tour. But then again, if the profiles are much better than the other, which I can't tell so far.
- SLIT: Something for everybody in a nice place for December. But I miss a summary with an overall view, geographically. Anyway, in my eyes, the TT is a) too long and b) between two flat stages... Better make two shorters ones and one if it between two hard mountain stages, that would be much more interesting. My opinion. Last thing: To be continued? If there is something to add, wait with posting until your finished. Same counts for the first tour too.

About the tours:
- Gita Italia: Italy, really? Can't write much about the profiles as there are only three so far... But Italy? There are enough stage races in Italy during the real cycling calender, no need for a fantasy one for the december tour. But then again, if the profiles are much better than the other, which I can't tell so far.
- SLIT: Something for everybody in a nice place for December. But I miss a summary with an overall view, geographically. Anyway, in my eyes, the TT is a) too long and b) between two flat stages... Better make two shorters ones and one if it between two hard mountain stages, that would be much more interesting. My opinion. Last thing: To be continued? If there is something to add, wait with posting until your finished. Same counts for the first tour too.
I didn't mean to say it. But I meant what I said.
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Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!
You joke ? Like a good little frenchy I follow ASO's style, Prudhomme and Pescheux are agree with me !team fl wrote:Please dear contestants... Post your tour when it's done with full presentation!
Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!
ehm...this is my professional secretolmania wrote:People why don't you put your full tours ?
Vea Olio : how did you create this uphill details for all of your hills in Italy ? Is there a program for this ? Seems awesome !

Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!
I know, but for me Italy is the place for the best december tour of all...team fl wrote:Please dear contestants... Post your tour when it's done with full presentation! Salami tactic is stupid, at least it gives you minus points from my side
About the tours:
- Gita Italia: Italy, really? Can't write much about the profiles as there are only three so far... But Italy? There are enough stage races in Italy during the real cycling calender, no need for a fantasy one for the december tour. But then again, if the profiles are much better than the other, which I can't tell so far.
- SLIT: Something for everybody in a nice place for December. But I miss a summary with an overall view, geographically. Anyway, in my eyes, the TT is a) too long and b) between two flat stages... Better make two shorters ones and one if it between two hard mountain stages, that would be much more interesting. My opinion. Last thing: To be continued? If there is something to add, wait with posting until your finished. Same counts for the first tour too.
Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!
Come on !Vea Olio wrote:ehm...this is my professional secretolmania wrote:People why don't you put your full tours ?
Vea Olio : how did you create this uphill details for all of your hills in Italy ? Is there a program for this ? Seems awesome !

(I will not use it for my presentation anyway

Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!
i use cyclograph...and if you want, you can use itolmania wrote:Come on !Vea Olio wrote:ehm...this is my professional secretolmania wrote:People why don't you put your full tours ?
Vea Olio : how did you create this uphill details for all of your hills in Italy ? Is there a program for this ? Seems awesome !![]()
(I will not use it for my presentation anyway)


Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!
@olmania my tour is harder 

Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!
Not really because all your summits will be under 1meter of snow and organizer will force the bunch to stay in valleys.Vea Olio wrote:@olmania my tour is harder

Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!
olmania wrote:
Not really because all your summits will be under 1meter of snow and organizer will force the bunch to stay in valleys.
Repeat what you said, but with a rifle pointed to the head.
Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!
Bah, TAKA's proposal is such an insult... hihi
I didn't mean to say it. But I meant what I said.
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Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!
Hum only 6 Winter Tour complete ? Vea forget he didn't finish his tour ? No more tour ? Alk ? Hunsrueck ? Hansa ? Luques ? FL ? Rad ? 

Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!
There are still 10 days!
All depends if i see the light
All depends if i see the light
Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!
on 26 october I show you the final part of the tour....you now can imagine the monster I have done....
Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!
Bah all these shitty Huber tours didn´t we have enough Huber tours in the real cycling calender? Also the 3 Gt´s are Huber tours more and more and i only found 3 dectours without Ultrloung Itts
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Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!
3 GTs are clearly not for hubers this year. Last year the same if ypu except TDF 2012.Hanse wrote:Bah all these shitty Huber tours didn´t we have enough Huber tours in the real cycling calender? Also the 3 Gt´s are Huber tours more and more and i only found 3 dectours without Ultrloung Itts
Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!
Negative ape can't help it...
Hunsrück, what's up with your heights? Stage 1, Carirubana-Carirubana, but you end up quite a bit above the start.
Or stage 9, the Ape happens to think that Maracaibo is at sea level. You seem to finish closer to 500 than to 0?
Hunsrück, what's up with your heights? Stage 1, Carirubana-Carirubana, but you end up quite a bit above the start.
Or stage 9, the Ape happens to think that Maracaibo is at sea level. You seem to finish closer to 500 than to 0?
Kraftsystemrevision! Include the distance!
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.
Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!
Do not know exactly what happened. Think is better now.Robyklebt wrote:Negative ape can't help it...
Hunsrück, what's up with your heights? Stage 1, Carirubana-Carirubana, but you end up quite a bit above the start.
Or stage 9, the Ape happens to think that Maracaibo is at sea level. You seem to finish closer to 500 than to 0?
Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!
for a problem, I'll post tomorrow or the 30 the stages...the climbs will be added in a second moment
Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!
Probably better if i didn't see the light!
Anyway Luques Tour is coming, in the day of the mistery, of the awful, the strange... here my tour
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Anyway Luques Tour is coming, in the day of the mistery, of the awful, the strange... here my tour

Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!
luques wrote:Probably better if i didn't see the light!
Anyway Luques Tour is coming, in the day of the mistery, of the awful, the strange... here my tour!
Your tour presentation says:
The rules say: 14 days max... That's one day too much. And it's symmetry, btw.There are 7 days - rest day - 7 days, we like simmetry!

I didn't mean to say it. But I meant what I said.
Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!
I switched back how it was originally planned... stage 1a and 1b, 14 stages overall but in 13days + 1rest day, but the symmetry is completely broken, now depressedteam fl wrote:luques wrote:Probably better if i didn't see the light!
Anyway Luques Tour is coming, in the day of the mistery, of the awful, the strange... here my tour!
Your tour presentation says:
The rules say: 14 days max... That's one day too much. And it's symmetry, btw.There are 7 days - rest day - 7 days, we like simmetry!



P.S. Thanks for the correction
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