February 23

[Robyklebt]

Preview PDF
http://www.cycling4freaks.com/radsport/ ... %20PDF.pdf

Races to be designed:


Races to be checked:

[Robyklebt]

Trying to make the proposal now, just a early warning/announcement:

We are in big trouble regarding the national championships. All 4 weekends in reality are covered by stage races.
Valenca-Besseges for the 5th
Provence-Oman 12th
Algarve-Andalucia 19th
UAE Tour and belgium opening weekend for the 26th...

We'll have to have long discussions soon about how to try to make space for the NCs. Or have it during the week (which for me is ok, but often many weren't happy with it when we had that)

[flockmastoR]

Trying to make the proposal now, just a early warning/announcement:

We are in big trouble regarding the national championships. All 4 weekends in reality are covered by stage races.
Valenca-Besseges for the 5th
Provence-Oman 12th
Algarve-Andalucia 19th
UAE Tour and belgium opening weekend for the 26th...

We'll have to have long discussions soon about how to try to make space for the NCs. Or have it during the week (which for me is ok, but often many weren't happy with it when we had that)

Would vote for during the week. Was never happy with the weekend editions and missed many because of that. But we probably should stick to weekend if possible and move during the week in cases like now!

[Quick]

NCs during the week is a good idea. We have far more active managers than on weekends.

[Bear]

During the week it's may better because more teams are active.

But for most of the people it wont work because of work.

[Gipfelstuermer]

Preview PDF online.

NCs on the 7th or 8th would be possible if that is wanted by the community. Any preferences?

[Robyklebt]

Right now the proposal has always 2 tours parallel with 2 editions each. That could of course be changed to just one, if that's more popular. Would be less work too.

[Weezel]

Hmmm...why no UAE for the afternoon?
There is no cut for morning, early evening and late evening.

[Robyklebt]

Horrible participation last year (2 teams) and San Juan at 13 is kind of almost afternoon.

[CircleCycle]

Is it maybe possible to switch starting times from Algarve and Ruta del Sol (so to have Algarve in the afternoon)?

[flockmastoR]

Are you sure about the number of riders? Volta Algarve has ~200km stages with 5 riders? Is this as it should be?

[Robyklebt]

Dammit, 8. 5 just below 8, so I probably slipped down for Andalucia and Ruta del Sol.

As for times, everything open for discussion, but it usually helps if you give the reason for the request (in this case mentioned in the our race, Algarve and Provence both expected to have a TT, so have one in the afternoon too, which is a good argument, don't deny people not in the race that good argument)

[bergwerk cycling]

First National Championships since long time perhaps in February?

[lennylenny]

Tour de Provence was cancelled:
https://twitter.com/TourProvenceOFF/sta ... 9738829824

[Robyklebt]

Then Oman with 4 editions.

NC I propose the 7th at this point. Weekday seems ok for those that have said something, with the next real race on the 9th fits with recovery too

[Chemnitz Pro Cycling Team]

NCs on a weekday would work for me. Whether 7th or 8th doesn't matter

[Alkworld]

NCs generated for Feb 7 (already visible in the calendar). If you decide to move to a different date, I could adjust it.

[el Galactico]

I started with Besseges. Hope nobody did that one so far.

[Robyklebt]

And I start Valencia

[Robyklebt]

Argh. Donkey just decided to do Oman. So he will do Oman.

But: Just realized that it is from the 11-15th, so overlap with Algarve-Ruta del Sol. Argh. Pretty sure it wasn't like this when the preview was made.... and now it's late, reorganizing all to have it on the real date complicated, so we'll have it on the wrong date after all... 10-14th.





GPM not specified, but was all cat 3 last time we rode it, so guess will be the same.
No details found on their site yet, GPM and IS on their twitter feed. Will check for more details later anyway.
There's a 6% at km 142, last km (150) +3, so a sprint very unlikely at c4f, even if they expect one in reality. Track on la flamme rouge 3 km too long right now, as I said will check again later.

[el Galactico]

Finished Besseges today. The websites gives no clue about any intermediate sprints, only GPM.

[Robyklebt]

Updated final PDF on.

In retrospect not too convinced with the change Ruta del Sol-Algarve, now Provence and Algarve, the 2 tours with TT at the same times, Valencia and Ruta del Sol, the 2 without for the other times.... but nobody except CC said anything.

Anyway, final PDF, so it's final, at least from the moment I start putting stuff online, which will either be in 2 hours or tomorrow.

[lennylenny]

Updated final PDF on.

In retrospect not too convinced with the change Ruta del Sol-Algarve, now Provence and Algarve, the 2 tours with TT at the same times, Valencia and Ruta del Sol, the 2 without for the other times.... but nobody except CC said anything.

Anyway, final PDF, so it's final, at least from the moment I start putting stuff online, which will either be in 2 hours or tomorrow.

I am not too happy about the swap, but are we actually doing Provence? Since it was cancelled and i don't think there are any routes published from before the cancellation

Edit: i think you meant Besseges

[Robyklebt]

Besseges, yes...

Upload starts tomorrow

[Gipfelstuermer]

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