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September 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:42 pm
by luques

Re: September 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:39 pm
by Golden State Team
Can we move Tour of GB to an earlier time? 14 is very late for people playing in the office.

Re: September 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:46 pm
by gaurain rx
Will check, adapt and draw or redraw if necessary all Belgian races!

Re: September 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:14 pm
by team fl
Golden State Team wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:39 pm
Can we move Tour of GB to an earlier time? 14 is very late for people playing in the office.
14h is just perfect for playing in the office...

Re: September 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 5:13 pm
by team fl
No Tour of Slovakia? -> https://www.okoloslovenska.com/

Re: September 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:44 pm
by Pokemon Club
What is the sense to have duo Normand ride like a TTT in fact ?

Re: September 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:49 pm
by Pokemon Club
And what about the reg of riders who do World Championship ITT and Road Race ? Full energy after the ITT ? Same energy as before the reg ? 2* reg ? 5 *reg ?

Re: September 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:41 pm
by luques
Missing Slovakia and China.

Actually not sure that Toscana will be a tour, two single races or whatever.

At the end of the month, imo, we can increase the editions as there are not tours.

Duo Normand will be not a duo.

Re: September 2018

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:58 am
by Robyklebt
On the tours:

- GB only 2 since with 5x Vuelta and Fourmies, Québec and Montreal parallel, 2 seems enough. Times, evening is clear, then one of morning, afternoon, early evening, turned out to be the afternoon this time. If a huge demand for changing it is there, don't care, change it.
- Toscana: Was a tour last year, thought one this year 2, but on their facebook page it sounds like only a 1 day race this year. Will correct that then.
- Slovakia: We kind of have the time for it, kind of, not even really, but is it needed? 12-16th. Parallel Wallonie, Agostoni, Bernocchi (+ some more northern stuff). And Slovakia really is rather unimportant in reality, the start list will most likely be worse than for the parallel 1 day races (even if unfortunately in the last years the quality of the startlist in Agostoni etc. has diminished too). Don't think is necessary at all, but if there's a huge request for it....
- China I: Overlap with Vuelta, GB (Slovakia), pointless
- China II: 17th, so after the Vuelta, so would be possible, but such an unimportant pointless race that I don't think we need it. But overlap-wise it's the one that would fit best, only overlapping with the more important semi classics.
-Almaty overlap with the WC. Ok, could be done one day earlier?


One day races: Times, Luques said second half when no tours parallel (unless we add China II, hope not) more editions ok... right. So instead 22nd to 24th 6 editions sounds logic.

Re: September 2018

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 9:31 am
by Golden State Team
team fl wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:14 pm
Golden State Team wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:39 pm
Can we move Tour of GB to an earlier time? 14 is very late for people playing in the office.
14h is just perfect for playing in the office...
Not if you just work till 14h :lol:

Re: September 2018

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 11:37 am
by team fl
Golden State Team wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 9:31 am
team fl wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:14 pm
Golden State Team wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:39 pm
Can we move Tour of GB to an earlier time? 14 is very late for people playing in the office.
14h is just perfect for playing in the office...
Not if you just work till 14h :lol:
Then state correctly that it is not a good time for you. But you wrote "for people".

Re: September 2018

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 8:40 pm
by fantasticos
pro slovakia tour!

Re: September 2018

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 6:15 am
by Robyklebt
Anybody else wants Slovakia?

Re: September 2018

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:02 am
by team fl
Si claro.

Re: September 2018

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:51 am
by RS Coesitz
Robyklebt wrote:
Sat Aug 25, 2018 6:15 am
Anybody else wants Slovakia?
small tours are always nice :) And Britain one early or one late edition would be good for me.

Re: September 2018

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 11:19 am
by IDF
Why not 3 editions minimum for every tour?


And why not putting China I and II together? (i don't check the dates of main tours this month, sorry if i'm wrong)

Re: September 2018

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 11:32 am
by Robyklebt
Because then we have too many editions, simple.

China I and China II together? Don't get the question, why would we put it together?

Re: September 2018

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 11:57 am
by RS Coesitz
Robyklebt wrote:
Sat Aug 25, 2018 11:32 am
Because then we have too many editions, simple.

China I and China II together? Don't get the question, why would we put it together?
Having one in the early morning (9/10) OR one in the later evening (22/23) would be nice. At least for me :D

Re: September 2018

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:06 pm
by kunske
RS Coesitz wrote:
Sat Aug 25, 2018 11:57 am
Robyklebt wrote:
Sat Aug 25, 2018 11:32 am
Because then we have too many editions, simple.

China I and China II together? Don't get the question, why would we put it together?
Having one in the early morning (9/10) OR one in the later evening (22/23) would be nice. At least for me :D
1 china in the morning would be nice. China more a sprintrace so would be nice to have a sprint race this month again:). This month i could not ride denmark and the bick bank tour.

Re: September 2018

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:43 pm
by luques
Updated

Re: September 2018

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:44 pm
by Hunsrueck
Vuelta does not spend 20 or 21 o'clock and Great Britain either? Can not be, at this time are usually most teams at the start :oops:

Re: September 2018

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:53 pm
by fantasticos
in the pdf is GB at 14 and 21h...

Re: September 2018

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 6:18 am
by Robyklebt
22h; 22h is actually a very strong time too, I'd say the strongest times are all three, 20-22. So clearly deserved a GT time too. But then 21 is clearly out. 20 would be possible, but then no real late evening. Which maybe then is stronger than 22-24, but since 17 is better avoided for important stuff, always weakish, would be 18-20-22....don't know if that's good, don't think so.

Britain: Right now it says 11-18.
IMO Britain and Slovakia will be 11-18 and 14-21, no late edition because with 22-24 Vuelta adding 23 seems too much, especially since then one between morning, afternoon and early evening would lose an edition instead.

GB 14-21 or 11-18... still time to state your preference, Slovakia will be the other one.

Right now the PDF is a bit weird though, somehow somebody sent a half finished version to Luques it seems, so the classics parallel to GB are at the times they would be if GB was 14-21... For 11-18 GB the proposal should read:
14-17-20-23 GP de Fourmies
9-15-20-23 Quebec
9-15-21-23 Montreal

Almaty: In out? Its on the wrong date now, but in like that or out? Ah, and being on the wrong date plus parallel to reality WC a cat 1 in my opinion.

More China comments?

Re: September 2018

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:48 am
by Robyklebt
In the meantime I do Britain:

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Rest later

Re: September 2018

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:27 am
by luques
My Mistake!
Updated!

Basically Slovakia and Great Britain adaptable, but thought evening people would prefer riding the most important races (and there are 2 cat4 and 2 cat 5 during Britain).