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September 2017

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:09 pm
by luques
http://www.cycling4freaks.com/radsport/ ... er2017.pdf

SEPTEMBER 2017

01-04 Sep 17 Tour of Alberta CAN ME 2.1
02 Sep 17 Brussels Cycling Classic BEL ME 1.HC
03 Sep 17 GP de Fourmies / La Voix du Nord FRA ME 1.HC
03-10 Sep 17 Tour of Britain GBR ME 2.HC
08 Sep 17 Grand Prix Cycliste de Québec CAN ME 1.UWT
10 Sep 17 Grand Prix Cycliste de Montréal CAN ME 1.UWT
10 Sep 17 Tour du Doubs FRA ME 1.1
10-17 Sep 17 Tour of China I CHN ME 2.1
12-16 Sep 17 PostNord Danmark Rundt - Tour of Denmark DEN ME 2.HC
13 Sep 17 Coppa Agostoni - Giro delle Brianze ITA ME 1.1
13 Sep 17 Grand Prix de Wallonie BEL ME 1.1
14 Sep 17 99° Coppa Bernocchi - 42° GP BPM ITA ME 1.1
15 Sep 17 Kampioenschap van Vlaanderen BEL ME 1.1
16 Sep 17 Primus Classic BEL ME 1.HC
16 Sep 17 Memorial Marco Pantani ITA ME 1.1
17 Sep 17 Grand Prix d'Isbergues - Pas de Calais FRA ME 1.1
19-24 Sep 17 Tour of China II CHN ME 2.1
20 Sep 17 Omloop van het Houtland Lichtervelde BEL ME 1.1
24 Sep 17 Duo Normand FRA ME 1.1
26-27 Sep 17 Giro della Toscana - Memorial Alfredo Martini ITA ME 2.1
28 Sep 17 Coppa Sabatini - Gran Premio città di Peccioli ITA ME 1.1
30 Sep 17 Giro dell Emilia ITA ME 1.HC
30 Sep 17 - 01 Oct 17 Tour of Almaty KAZ ME 2.1
30 Sep 17 Omloop Eurometropool BEL ME 1.1

ONLINE, MUST BE DRAWED OR CHECKED(WHEN PROFILE STILL THE SAME)
NOT ONLINE
NEW VERSION DRAWED
AT WORK
DELETE OR POSTPONED
SAME TRACK AS 2016

Re: September 2017

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:17 am
by Coroncina2
Kernen Omloop Echt-Susteren
Brussels Cycling Classic
GP de Fourmies / La Voix du Nord
Grand Prix Cycliste de Québec
Grand Prix Cycliste de Montréal
Grand Prix de Wallonie
Coppa Bernocchi
Kampioenschap van Vlaanderen
Memorial Marco Pantani
track like 2016
Omloop van het Houtland Lichtervelde 2015

http://tourofalberta.ca/

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I don't find the category of KOM so I put it all same number. If you know it you can change of course.

Re: September 2017

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:47 am
by Pokemon Club
Alberta // Britain or not ?

Re: September 2017

Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 5:47 pm
by Tukhtahuaev
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Re: September 2017

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:57 am
by CircleCycle
08 Sep 17 Grand Prix Cycliste de Québec CAN ME 1.UWT
10 Sep 17 Grand Prix Cycliste de Montréal CAN ME 1.UWT
13 Sep 17 Grand Prix de Wallonie BEL ME 1.1
16 Sep 17 Memorial Marco Pantani ITA ME 1.1

Same like last year, or no? Ah, I see Coro already mentioned this. Good :)

Re: September 2017

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:34 pm
by CircleCycle
Denmark (will finish today)

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Re: September 2017

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:36 am
by Coroncina2
Pokemon Club wrote:Alberta // Britain or not ?
I think we could posticipate Alberta the 3° week 20-23/sept.

China is a singol tour of 12 stages with 2 day of rest between first and second part. The problem is that we didn't know 2017 stages.

Btw I think we could fix some rules about caledar and don't think all the month the races do play, when, hours ect

Re: September 2017

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:26 am
by Robyklebt
Absolutely no need to postpone Alberta.

Re: September 2017

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:00 am
by Pokemon Club
Coroncina2 wrote:
Pokemon Club wrote:Alberta // Britain or not ?
I think we could posticipate Alberta the 3° week 20-23/sept.

China is a singol tour of 12 stages with 2 day of rest between first and second part. The problem is that we didn't know 2017 stages.

Btw I think we could fix some rules about caledar and don't think all the month the races do play, when, hours ect
It seems luques prefer start Britain 2 days later.

If you think we need some rules, propose it.

Re: September 2017

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:02 pm
by CircleCycle
Can you please put Canadian flag for Alberta?

Re: September 2017

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:40 pm
by IDF
Pokemon Club wrote:
Coroncina2 wrote:
Pokemon Club wrote:Alberta // Britain or not ?
I think we could posticipate Alberta the 3° week 20-23/sept.

China is a singol tour of 12 stages with 2 day of rest between first and second part. The problem is that we didn't know 2017 stages.

Btw I think we could fix some rules about caledar and don't think all the month the races do play, when, hours ect
It seems luques prefer start Britain 2 days later.

If you think we need some rules, propose it.

If Britain starts 2 day later, it wil' be // with Danmark..

Re: September 2017

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:00 pm
by Pokemon Club
IDF wrote:
Pokemon Club wrote:
Coroncina2 wrote:
Pokemon Club wrote:Alberta // Britain or not ?
I think we could posticipate Alberta the 3° week 20-23/sept.

China is a singol tour of 12 stages with 2 day of rest between first and second part. The problem is that we didn't know 2017 stages.

Btw I think we could fix some rules about caledar and don't think all the month the races do play, when, hours ect
It seems luques prefer start Britain 2 days later.

If you think we need some rules, propose it.

If Britain starts 2 day later, it wil' be // with Danmark..
Looks the pdf

Re: September 2017

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:23 pm
by Robyklebt
Luques:

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No category written for one day races. Would be helpful to see that too. Since I'm not sure I trust you to put them in the right category.

Tours: Britain probably should be cat 3 by now.
China, if it needs to be ridden (completely unnecessary IMO, but...) cat 1, clearly without a doubt cat 1
Rest ok.

Dates: Again, unnecessary to postpone 2 tours by 1 day each. Alberta 2 or max 3 times, Britain 3 or max 4 times. Let's say 7 times and then you have the chance to do something like 9-13-16-19-21-22-24
Look at overlapping tour as a chance instead of at a catastrophe that needs to be avoided by postponing tours.

Ah, and 5 editions of 1 day races per day. Obviously for the semi classics. But as well for fantasy races and other lesser ones, especially since your moron assistant has started shutting certain times out on a weekly basis now.

Re: September 2017

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:03 pm
by Team Kazi Blocks
China tour II

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Re: September 2017

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:27 pm
by CircleCycle
Robyklebt wrote:Luques:

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No category written for one day races. Would be helpful to see that too. Since I'm not sure I trust you to put them in the right category.

Tours: Britain probably should be cat 3 by now.
China, if it needs to be ridden (completely unnecessary IMO, but...) cat 1, clearly without a doubt cat 1
Rest ok.

Dates: Again, unnecessary to postpone 2 tours by 1 day each. Alberta 2 or max 3 times, Britain 3 or max 4 times. Let's say 7 times and then you have the chance to do something like 9-13-16-19-21-22-24
Look at overlapping tour as a chance instead of at a catastrophe that needs to be avoided by postponing tours.

Ah, and 5 editions of 1 day races per day. Obviously for the semi classics. But as well for fantasy races and other lesser ones, especially since your moron assistant has started shutting certain times out on a weekly basis now.
agree about the tours. Britain was even cat 3 last year, while overlapping tours with less starting times for each worked pretty well at July/August. And maybe open a discussion about the categories of semiclassic 1day races in a separate thread?

Re: September 2017

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 1:33 am
by Coroncina2
Team Kazi Blocks wrote:China tour II

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Are you sure isn't 2016 edition?

http://www.thetourofchina.com/en/articl ... d/226.html

Re: September 2017

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:11 am
by Team Kazi Blocks
Coroncina2 wrote:
Team Kazi Blocks wrote:China tour II

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Are you sure isn't 2016 edition?

http://www.thetourofchina.com/en/articl ... d/226.html
When I click on the 2017 edition, I get to this. So I guess It is the same as last year.

Re: September 2017

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:56 pm
by Rasmussen
We dont need China at all. World championship in that period of time.

Re: September 2017

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:11 am
by CircleCycle
Rasmussen wrote:We dont need China at all. World championship in that period of time.
+1

Re: September 2017

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:07 pm
by luques
CircleCycle wrote:
Rasmussen wrote:We dont need China at all. World championship in that period of time.
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WC is just one day. Just move China one day earlier.

And yes we need it. I'm not a big fan too of unknown tours all around the world, but there are pretty clear statistics that indicate that the game has more players when a tour is running and not only single races. And it's not a question of 2-3, but 20-30 managers of difference. So clearly the second option has to be preferred.

It may even be interesting to test double races in a single day without tour, for example 4 - 4 each, of different type 1 flat 1 mountain, 1hill 1itt etc..

Re: September 2017

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:14 pm
by Rasmussen
4 races. U23 RR, U23 ITT, Elite RR, Elite ITT.

Re: September 2017

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:49 pm
by CircleCycle
luques wrote:
CircleCycle wrote:
Rasmussen wrote:We dont need China at all. World championship in that period of time.
+1
WC is just one day. Just move China one day earlier.

And yes we need it. I'm not a big fan too of unknown tours all around the world, but there are pretty clear statistics that indicate that the game has more players when a tour is running and not only single races. And it's not a question of 2-3, but 20-30 managers of difference. So clearly the second option has to be preferred.

It may even be interesting to test double races in a single day without tour, for example 4 - 4 each, of different type 1 flat 1 mountain, 1hill 1itt etc..
Therefore we skipt the drawn tours Czech tour and Tour de l Ain in August, because we had too many tours? We don't even know for sure if this 2016 profile is same for 2017. A Fantasy tour is an option, or isnt?
Agree with double races - worth a try definitely

Re: September 2017

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:06 am
by team fl
If there are no more profiles for the September races until tomorrow starts, can we at least get the times for the one day races and the categories? If you haven't decided yet, here's my suggest for the latter:

Cat. 4/5

Montreal
Quebec

Cat. 4

Brussels
Fourmies
Emilia

Cat 3/4

Primus

Cat. 3

Agostini
Bernocchi
Sabatini

Cat. 2

KVV
Omloop
Isbuergues
Pantani
Wallonie
Duo Normand
Almaty
Eurometropool

Re: September 2017

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:59 am
by luques
Put down times for the most important ones 4+, and cat for all the others.

Fourmies is the same of last year, but Brussels is slightly different 2kms more.

Re: September 2017

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:35 am
by Robyklebt
I'd have liked to see Québec and Montréal finally at 5. Or simply at the same level as Hamburg and Plouay, could be all 4 too... but ok, next year then.