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August 2014

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 2:31 am
by cataracs
The main August races , what should we draw and what not ?
http://www.cycling4freaks.com/radsport/august2014_b.pdf

30.07.2014 - 10.08.2014 Volta a Portugal em Bicicleta Liberty Seguros (2.1) -> canceled for C4F
02.08.2014 Clasica Ciclista San Sebastian (1.UWT)
03.08.2014 La Poly Normande (1.1)
03.08.2014 - 09.08.2014 Tour de Pologne (2.UWT) -> lesossies

06.08.2014 - 10.08.2014 Post Danmark Rundt - Tour of Denmark (2.HC) -> Pokemon
10.08.2014 Prudential RideLondon Classic (1.HC)
11.08.2014 - 17.08.2014 Eneco Tour (2.UWT) -> Pokemon
13.08.2014 - 17.08.2014 Vuelta a Burgos (2.HC) -> Team Taka

18.08.2014 - 24.08.2014 USA Pro Challenge (2.HC)
19.08.2014 GP Stad Zottegem (1.1)

22.08.2014 Arnhem-Veenendaal Classic (1.1)
23.08.2014 - 14.09.2014 Vuelta a España (2.UWT)

24.08.2014 Châteauroux Classic de l'Indre Trophée Fenioux (1.1)
24.08.2014 Vattenfall Cyclassics (1.UWT)
26.08.2014 - 29.08.2014 Tour du Poitou Charentes (2.1)
27.08.2014 Druivenkoers - Overijse (1.1)
30.08.2014 - 05.09.2014 Tour of China I (2.1) ??
31.08.2014 GP Ouest France - Plouay (1.UWT)
31.08.2014 Schaal Sels (1.1)

ONLINE, MUST BE DRAWED OR CHECKED(WHEN PROFILE STILL THE SAME)
NOT ONLINE
NEW VERSION DRAWED
AT WORK
DELETE OR POSTPONED
SAME TRACK AS 2013


Note that the Trittico Lombardo is moved to September. Race reported are .1 and higher cat.

Re: August 2014

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 2:39 am
by cataracs
In my opinion we can do :
Portugal (4 times) who ride wallonie can't ride this one
Pologne+Danmark (3 times each )
Eneco+Burgos (3 times each)
Usa pro challenge (4 maybe 5 times)
Vuleta (5 times)
or maybe deleting portugal could be another option too

Re: August 2014

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:31 am
by Pokemon Club
cataracs wrote:In my opinion we can do :
Portugal (4 times) who ride wallonie can't ride this one
Pologne+Danmark (3 times each )
Eneco+Burgos (3 times each)
Usa pro challenge (4 maybe 5 times)
Vuleta (5 times)
or maybe deleting portugal could be another option too
Why not put all the races for august in the first post ? Why keep Portugal and not Utah ? Cancel both, or assume somee race like Tour de l'Ain in Eneco and Burgos if we ride Portugal // Pologne // Danmark, like that we will ride iin funny 4 teams group all the month.

Re: August 2014

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:05 am
by lennylenny
I think Portugal should be crossed out, because 3 tours at the Same Time are too much and Portugal is only 2.1(Denmark2.HC, Pologne 2.UWT)
So Denmark/Pologne+ENECO/Burgos

Edit: Dont Know if we should ride China, cause it overlaps with Alberta and we have Vuelta parallel

Re: August 2014

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 12:40 am
by lesossies
I start to design Pologne.

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Re: August 2014

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 5:28 pm
by Pokemon Club
Grr confuesd Utah and USA Pro Challenge, thanks Taka.

Anyway, we have at least Pologne, Danmark, Eneco, Burgos, USA Pro Challenge, Vuelta, Poitou Charentes to design, maybe Limousin too, and 1 day races if they change. Leso already in Pologne, who will design what ?

Re: August 2014

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:57 pm
by lennylenny
@leso
et5 is a bit long, from portugal to pologne?

Re: August 2014

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:51 pm
by olmania
lennylenny wrote:@leso
et5 is a bit long, from portugal to pologne?
POLand
PORtugal


just a line difference in the country list.
will change it later, no worries

Re: August 2014

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:03 pm
by lennylenny
I know that it was misclicking, but i just wanted to show it

Re: August 2014

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:34 am
by lesossies
lennylenny wrote:@leso
et5 is a bit long, from portugal to pologne?
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no problem, i have to control all stages, it is only a preview.
but THX

Re: August 2014

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:55 pm
by Pokemon Club
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Re: August 2014

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 6:15 pm
by cataracs
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Stage 1 and 3 same as last year you can use it leso or shoud I desing them too ?

Re: August 2014

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:03 am
by lesossies
cataracs wrote:Stage 1 and 3 same as last year you can use it leso or shoud I desing them too ?
No, should be OK:
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Re: August 2014

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:54 am
by bergwerk cycling
have you a pdf- or excel-overview of the august-races?
thks

Re: August 2014

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:35 am
by Rockstar Inc
Pokemon Club wrote:Grr confuesd Utah and USA Pro Challenge, thanks Taka.

Anyway, we have at least Pologne, Danmark, Eneco, Burgos, USA Pro Challenge, Vuelta, Poitou Charentes to design, maybe Limousin too, and 1 day races if they change. Leso already in Pologne, who will design what ?
we really need those two tours additionally to the 6 we already have in August?

Re: August 2014

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:52 am
by luques
Rockstar Inc wrote:
Pokemon Club wrote:Grr confuesd Utah and USA Pro Challenge, thanks Taka.

Anyway, we have at least Pologne, Danmark, Eneco, Burgos, USA Pro Challenge, Vuelta, Poitou Charentes to design, maybe Limousin too, and 1 day races if they change. Leso already in Pologne, who will design what ?
we really need those two tours additionally to the 6 we already have in August?
Beh, if they are not in // with other things.

But I would avoid to do Vuelta + Classic + Tour, just Vuelta + Classic should be enough.

Re: August 2014

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:48 pm
by Pokemon Club
luques wrote:
Rockstar Inc wrote:
Pokemon Club wrote:Grr confuesd Utah and USA Pro Challenge, thanks Taka.

Anyway, we have at least Pologne, Danmark, Eneco, Burgos, USA Pro Challenge, Vuelta, Poitou Charentes to design, maybe Limousin too, and 1 day races if they change. Leso already in Pologne, who will design what ?
we really need those two tours additionally to the 6 we already have in August?
Beh, if they are not in // with other things.

But I would avoid to do Vuelta + Classic + Tour, just Vuelta + Classic should be enough.
Limousin // nothing, Poitou Charentes (or China) // Vuelta only, there was no problem with Sibiu //Tour, why they will have a problem with Poitou // Vuelta ?

Re: August 2014

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:55 pm
by Rockstar Inc
the more tours we offer // to a GT, the more guys will try to fill the purse....

maybe it's worth a try to let the guys decide "single races" or the GT...i mean we're not cutting a world tour tour or a HC Tour...we would cut two more or less minor tours

maybe the groupsizes for the vuelta will rise

Re: August 2014

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:08 pm
by cataracs
there is usa pro challenge groups will never rise :?

Re: August 2014

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:11 pm
by Pokemon Club
Rockstar Inc wrote:the more tours we offer // to a GT, the more guys will try to fill the purse....

maybe it's worth a try to let the guys decide "single races" or the GT...i mean we're not cutting a world tour tour or a HC Tour...we would cut two more or less minor tours

maybe the groupsizes for the vuelta will rise
We actually cut a lot of tours already. And problematic for Vuelta is completely differents that for Giro or Tour. No bigs tours, but enough bigs (semi-)classics in parallel. It isn't Vuelta or Poitou Charentes + Great Britain for teams, but Vuelta or Vattenfall Cyclassics + GP Plouay + GP Fourmies + GP Quebec + GP Montreal.
So it is more win stages with a 95 sprinter or a 88+ climber during Vuelta or try to win a Classic if you don't have this kind of rider.

Re: August 2014

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:24 pm
by Rockstar Inc
at least limousin is not neccessary...taka said it right...us pro challenge...so you got vuelta + us pro challenge //...that's ok, no need for a third tour there

Poitou imo also not neccessary...but i could deal with it :)

Re: August 2014

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:24 pm
by Pokemon Club
Rockstar Inc wrote:at least limousin is not neccessary...taka said it right...us pro challenge...so you got vuelta + us pro challenge //...that's ok, no need for a third tour there

Poitou imo also not neccessary...but i could deal with it :)
I don't see the problem here. Poitou isn't in parallele USA pro challenge, it is after.

Re: August 2014

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:19 pm
by Rockstar Inc
laying out too much money in the side-programm

Re: August 2014

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:49 pm
by sylvainmeteo
bergwerk cycling wrote:have you a pdf- or excel-overview of the august-races?
thks
+1

Re: August 2014

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 4:41 pm
by lesossies