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Short Info: At 01.12 there are two one-day-races. May be a mistake?

Question to leso about Winter classics:

In November we had Nenzi Hengsomething in for the second year running. Not an overly exciting race I thought, but if leso thinks it's worth being rerun.. ok ok. But it was only cat 1. Either put in new races, this year you should have enough, or then make the old ones cat 2....
Second new "classic" in november was some Uganda thing by RKL. Was cat 2, good. But.. .why was that one even in? If leso liked it that much, ok, of course good old leso can promote the races he likes to cat 2. But for some others FL, Rado and Taka made some nice lists, none of them liked that race or proposed it. Neither Nenzixxx nor Ugandathing were proposed, but in... why not listen to the users who took the time to look for races they liked too?

Similar in Dec. Chang Mai Grand Pris in. Nobody proposed that. Can't imagine leso liked that one THAT much to put it in again... why is it there? Anbd as cat 2???? Can't you find a nicer race that somebody proposed?
Then Oax something, mexican thing. That one was proposed. Good. but why cat 1? Put that one at cat 2!

OK I had a new look on it:
I took all races in consideration who got 2 or 3 nominations:

There were no races in december who got 2 so I took some from november:
Coimbra GP
San Benito
and Kisoro-Kabale


For January I ´ll take:
Colombo
Novo Hamburgo (the only one with 3 nominationa)
and la coupe de Guadeloupe (cause we are now allready riding in Guadeloupe.)

I quote myself from last year's December thread:

team fl wrote:Was it intended to change the Pavé de Noel into a classic race with some pavé?

I have 4 things to say :

1/ I had a dream last night, now I want to ride RKL's MEAT or/and Mpumalanga tour, and Huns's Guatemalatour this month

2/ There is 2 races the 05/12, but ok not a big problem

3/ TTT La Verbana the 21/12 with a bad mintact, nice if you change it when you have time

4/ It makes 2 following days SM ride with an "expensive" lineup, I don't recognize this guy he looks suspect !

Are all tours from december published now?

I think yes.
Only Christmas tour will be added later. cf topic about design competition.

olmania wrote:I think yes.
Only Christmas tour will be added later. cf topic about design competition.

Bah there is the place for 2 other tours at least except christmas tour

Yes why not, maybe one other short tour just before Christmas. I don't know yet.
Let's wait for Leso's opinion

a little tour for christmas would pass in.

TOUR OF AL ZUBARAH (2.2)
4/7 December 2013

Ich bin der festen Überzeugung, dass die absurden Einstuffungen der Etappen durch die Zeichner (Bergetappe, die niemals nie nich eine ist) Lesso fehlgeleitet haben zu dem vielleicht schlimmsten Monat für Klassiker, den es je gab. Über Bergfahrer fange ich jetzt nichtmal an zu sprechen.

Worlds again at 26th?

Lesotho goes in // with Mpumalanga.
Lesotho 4 days starting 17 should have the last stage on 20 when Mpumalanga starts.

Rockstar Inc wrote:Worlds again at 26th?

yes

No, please. No worlds!!! There is no reason to have something as boring as the worlds only a few months after the last, real ones.

We already made a poll this year: viewtopic.php?f=37&t=3742
Barely anybody wanted four world championships. Three got the most votes, two would be the average of what people wanted.

Alkworld wrote:We already made a poll this year: viewtopic.php?f=37&t=3742
Three got the most votes

one got the most votes oO

I must take a decision this WE for the World Champ.
If twice a year, one official and one RSF/C4F, we should look to get the best day for the C4F one.

lesossies wrote:I must take a decision this WE for the World Champ.
If twice a year, one official and one RSF/C4F, we should look to get the best day for the C4F one.

If we take two of them, March would be the perfect time for the fantasy edition Although having it outside the cycling season also has its appeal.

Alkworld wrote:

lesossies wrote:I must take a decision this WE for the World Champ.
If twice a year, one official and one RSF/C4F, we should look to get the best day for the C4F one.

If we take two of them, March would be the perfect time for the fantasy edition Although having it outside the cycling season also has its appeal.

In March looks hard to find a date I think

Alkworld wrote:

lesossies wrote:I must take a decision this WE for the World Champ.
If twice a year, one official and one RSF/C4F, we should look to get the best day for the C4F one.

If we take two of them, March would be the perfect time for the fantasy edition Although having it outside the cycling season also has its appeal.

6 month difference to the real worlds...sounds good...but poke is also right....real season...important races...hmm

I'm simply for one

March WC sucks. Forms and stuff.

OL-Leso, I think we need a "flat restday" for the next week which arrive. Just have a looks at the calendar :

Today, 17.12 Chittgong-Manikchari : Flat (few HS-Classics chance)
18.12 Bayamon GP : Middle Mountain (no sprinter chance)
19.12 Manzizi - Mbabane - Manzizi : Middle Mountain (no sprinter chance)
20.12 Totonicapa - Zacate Grande : Mountain (no sprinter chance)
21.12 TTT Verbana : Hilly TTT (no sprinter chance)
22.12 GP Coimbra : Flat/Middle Mountain (few sprinters chance)
23.12 Pavés de Noel : Middle Mountain paves (no sprinter chance)
24.12 Christmas Island GP : Middle Mountain (no sprinter chance)
25.12 Oaxaca - Huajuapan : Middle Mountain (no sprinter chance)

Maybe can be nice to have something in parallel of the TTT, or change place a middle stage race an put a flat stage on the free date

Alkworld wrote:

lesossies wrote:I must take a decision this WE for the World Champ.
If twice a year, one official and one RSF/C4F, we should look to get the best day for the C4F one.

If we take two of them, March would be the perfect time for the fantasy edition Although having it outside the cycling season also has its appeal.

Ok, december would be too early, but march is not perfect too, because of the real calendar.
End of January or February could be an altenative.