November 2011

[Pirkio]

have to prepare the team for november, want to know what races there are please write it

[lesossies]

The "Camponeato de los Andes" from 13.11-27.11 will be the november highlight.
Previewed times: 10,15,18,20,22h

Mosell Cup 6.11
Flêche Jurassienne 29.11

Probably Southland 30.10-5.11 and Bolivia 06.11-13.11 but I´m waiting Aux´s response.

First preview:
http://www.cycling4freaks.com/radsport/ ... r_2011.pdf

[Robyklebt]

Don't forget Bolkow-Bolkow in RSF classics! Last year during the Andes, propose offering it during the Andes too, so that non Andes teams have a chance to get their points as well.

[Robyklebt]

Mosell something (really horrible name, but ok) last year was cat 3, the highest Fantasy cat, this year down to 2. Why not keep it at 3?

Then, you keep a fairly high number of 1 day races from last year. Ok with that, but then why not make them cat 2? Second edition, plus it's good to have some races that give slightly more points during the Andes and the parallel tours, for those who don't want/can't ride the stage race. I'd say all the fantasy repetitions from 2010 up to cat 2... and then Bolkow-Bolkow cat 3 to show it's still more important. No need to then repeat these cat 2 races next year if after this year you think you don't like them after all... but still nice to give out a tiny little bit more points to those that aren't riding the Andes and parallel tours.

Ah, more 1 day races that were proposed for "RSF classic status from the RSF classics thread.

GP de Bielsko Biala: Proposed by NoPik in oct 10... no clue when, a found it! 23.09.2010, would be a candidate for cat 2 status in November too.
Preston Blackburn, proposed by the other guy who never shuts up, 31.10.2010, would be another candidate for cat 2 status in November.

Put them in, if somebody takes the time to praise a race he hasn't designed himself it deserves to be in! If it becomes to many kick that Indian thing, looks horroble (+Azizi won) But don't think 2 more would make it too many, some cat 2 really is needed during the tours.

[Robyklebt]

2 new posts, read the one above as well Mr Ossies.

Mmh, this request will probably be denied, but...

Andes finish on the 27, why not put in one of the nicest if not the nicest fantasy tour you have in your pile? (Trying to get vote for the dec tour, but mmh, might get one but lose votes from all other designers who have tours waiting) The Tour of New Zealand. 7 days. If the dec tour starts on the 5th (which would seem logical if a 14 days tour wins, finish on a sunday) there would just be enough place to put it in. Ok, Andes, NZL, Dectour no break maybe too much. Otherwise cut that Southland thing and put in NZL, it's just a nicer tour... plus it deserves to be in as main tour somewhere IMO! Dec will be hard, January then maybe if not November.

[iBanesto]

How long was Bolkow-Bolkow in its first edition? 132 or 99? Have we turned a long race into a short one somehow?
Same for Coppa Mosella. "Classics" with 165 or 178 km seem odd to me.

[Robyklebt]

Add another lap to Bolkow would be a solution, no? LCB the original designer I think, not around, but doubt he would think it defaces or changes his race too much.
Probably it was 132.. not sure, was in the old tact, so was long. Now short, you're right. Add a lap! 198 km! (or 2, 231?)
Mosella the same, a few of the short laps probably. or longer start, don't know. Ask bella if he's around somewhere..
But add the laps, don't kick them (even if actually I don't really like Mosella much..)

[olmania]

Leso, you should add tours and // tours to the Andes, short tours 3-8days, fantasy (?) in the calendar.

[lesossies]

OK
I adapt the Categories and races
Parallel Tours are coming see Preview
http://www.cycling4freaks.com/radsport/ ... r_2011.pdf

[auxilium torino]

southland is finish, but not really complete.
the homepage speak about several mountain intermediate and intermediate sprint, but their are not to find in maps, and are not profile to see this, info are incomplete, the maps was online only on 28 October.

from homepage southland:
The PowerNet Tour of Southland KOM is decided over 16 hills and 2 stage finishes.(i find 13 hills and 2 stage finish, last 2 was not hard to understand, but value from intermediate are also not online)
There are 74 sprints in the PowerNet Tour of Southland.(normaly are more then 10 intermediate sprint pro stage...but where???)

beautiful Video, nice sponsor sides, info about Champs Dinner and for spectator, but nothing to find about the real race.

[Robyklebt]

That's why I say: Put in NoPikouzes Tour of New Zealand instead!

[Robyklebt]

If we really need to ride the Coppa d'Inverno as cat 2, can you at least change the description. "Last italian classic of the year"?

[Robyklebt]

Today Jacaranda classic: Extreme cold: I doubt end of october in South Africa is extreme cold... Anyway, too late. Change it for next year though. .
Stratford to Dargo in November, extreme cold too, sorry, wrong climate for Australia in November.
My favorite one then: Tour of Okinawa, extreme cold. Slightly wrong too.. And if it happens to be "extremly cold" in Okinawa, that's probably 19 degrees or so..

PS: I guess weather is personal...

[olmania]

Why my Wallis & Futuna race is cat2 ? and Lanzarote ?

[Team Saller]

Takes the bolivia tour places or does someone work on it??

[auxilium torino]

The "Camponeato de los Andes" from 13.11-27.11 will be the november highlight.
Previewed times: 10,15,18,20,22h

Mosell Cup 6.11
Flêche Jurassienne 29.11

Probably Southland 30.10-5.11 and Bolivia 06.11-13.11 but I´m waiting Aux´s response.

First preview:
http://www.cycling4freaks.com/radsport/ ... r_2011.pdf

[NoPikouze]

Southland sucks as usual (look at the number of teams if you dont believe me).
Bolivia will suck as usual.

Then we have Hainan, which also sucks. Oh and Sun tour... Stop putting all those semi-real shitraces about which nobody cares and which are also mostly flat (thus, boring as hell).

When the real season is over we have the fantasy season in RSF. So let's have fantasy races. And fun. We had eneco and beijing as boring real tours, that's enough for a year...

[lesossies]

I dont have so much alternatives.
If I need a 7days tour p.e. I only see Passau-Como, Tirol and NZ ...
We had already a tour in NZ and the 2 other are not very good in november.

[NoPikouze]

I see. Maybe you can let the designers know what you need, in that case. I mean, once every 2 or 3 months, not every week of course.
Because they might think that these "real" tours are preferred to fantasy... And also they don't know what kind of tour (days, type, region) you would like to have, and also what kind of tours you already have in your database.
So, all in all, if they don't know what you already have and what you need, the supply is not necessarily adapted to your needs.

[Woddeltown Team]

If i know what is needed, i will have a look for a one day tour

[team fl]

In the PDF, Champagne is 7. to 9., but in the race overview ingame it is 18. to 20. So, what is correct?

[sylvainmeteo]

That would be cool to have little tours in parallel of Campeonato de los Andes (3/5 days tours)

[Team ART]

Hi there,

could we have any further information about the profile of the Akropolis-Tour?

Thanks!

[Alkworld]

Hi there,

could we have any further information about the profile of the Akropolis-Tour?

Thanks!

You can use the search function in the forum for Fantasy Races. There you'll find a tour by Woddeltown with five days which is pretty likely the one in the overview
A Timor tour, like the one in the pdf, is also in the same forum, but it is only a two-day tour, so I guess the Champagne is the correct one for 18-20 Nov.

[Robyklebt]

Viva NoPikouze!

Stop the discrimination of people who don't want to ride amateur and club races, and offer some nice little fantasy races.
7 days? Be flexible, use 6 days tours too. And there you have Morocco, probably 5 by OL, etc.