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http://www.cycling4freaks.com/radsport/October_2011.pdf
Who want to draw ?
Tours:fantasy classic RSF
Tour des Pavés -> Alkworld
Jura -> ZL

October 2011
01 Oct Memorial Marco Pantani (Gsemilia.it) Ita 1.1 2011
01 Oct Piccolo Giro di Lombardia Ita 1.2 2011
02 Oct Tour de Vendée Fra 1.HC 2011
03 Oct Sparkassen Münsterland-Giro Ger 1.1 2011
02 Oct Criterium International de la Comunidad Valenciana Esp Cri DELAYED until 13 nov.
04 Oct Binche - Tournai - Binche Bel 1.1
05-08 Oct? Grand prix Chantal Biya Cmr 2.2 X
05-09 Oct Tour of Beijing Chn WT 2011
06 Oct Coppa Sabatini Ita 1.1
06 Oct Paris-Bourges Fra 1.1 2011
06-09 Oct Tour of Alanya Tur 2.2 X
07 Oct Zwevezele Koers Bel Nat 2011
08 Oct Giro dell'Emilia (Gsemilia.it) Ita 1.HC 2011
09 Oct Gran Premio Bruno Beghelli (Gsemilia.it) Ita 1.1
09 Oct India Cyclothon Delhi Ind 1.2 2011
09 Oct Paris-Tours Fra 1.HC
09 Oct Paris-Tours "Espoirs" Fra 1.2U
20-28 Oct? Tour of Hainan (Tohcr.com)Chn 2.HC 2011
11 Oct Nationale Sluitingprijs - Putte-Kapellen Bel 1.1 2011
12-16 Oct Jayco Herald Sun Tour Aus 2.1 2011
12 Oct Milano-Torino Ita 1.HC let the old version, as ever
13 Oct Giro del Piemonte / Gran Piemonte Ita 1.HC
15 Oct Giro di Lombardia Ita WT 2011
15-23 Oct? Tour do Brasil Volta Ciclística de São Paulo-Internacional Bra 2.2 2010
16 Oct Chrono des Nations Les Herbiers Vendée Fra 1.1 2011
18-23 Oct? National Championships Medellín (Ciclismodecolombia.com) Col NCH 2010
19-30 Oct? Vuelta a Guatemala (Edosof.com) Gua 2.2 2010...aux draw it
21-30 Oct? Tour du Faso Bur 2.2 2010
21-23 Oct? Tour de Seoul Kor 2.2 2010
22 Oct? Tour of Taihu Lake (.org) Chn 1.2 2010
23 Oct? Criterium Vuelta a Chihuahua Internacional Mex Cri 2010
23 Oct? Japan Cup Cycle Road Race Jpn 1.HC
23 Oct-02 Nov? Speedy Tour d'Indonesia (Telkomspeedy.com) Ina 2.2 2010
29 Oct? Cancun Cycling Challenge Mex Cri 2010
29 Oct? Criterium Ciclista Ciudad de Oviedo Esp Cri 2010
30 Oct-5 Nov 2011 PowerNet Tour of SouthlandAUX draw it

Same profile then 2010
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It's in more than a year, we have time...

Jura should be ZL as usual, 'his' tour, like Anden was Cerros tour until he gave it up, like Sachsen pavé is Liberties tour. Until the original drawer resigns, he should keep it.

Tour de pavés we had 2 good skull years, I like rotation there, but certainly not designing it, don't care.

Then add:

who CHECKS and designs. Many of the one day races don't need to be redesigned every year, just checked, maybe slight corrections.

Plus add the Tour of Beijing. RKL will design.

I check and design Münsterlan...home sweet home

Uyaaaaaaaa

Finally opened the pdf

Forget Tirol, Tour of Beijing 5-9th, real race

Categories:

Vendée at least 3. Second year it's at HC, if you feel it has gained enough importance to be 4, make it 4, otherwise 3. I'd go for 3, but both ok
Rest seems ok at first sight.

23 in reality the Japan Cup.
So either NC or Japan cup the 22!

Münsterland Giro 2011
The race is completly different to last year.


I haven't found anything about sprints or mountain challenges

ja, das ziel geht durch die altstadt & da ist alles voll von kopfsteinpflaster. würd sogar sagen ***, welchen wert hast du denn genommen?

olmania wrote:2012 ?

OK

Avaya wrote:ja, das ziel geht durch die altstadt & da ist alles voll von kopfsteinpflaster. würd sogar sagen ***, welchen wert hast du denn genommen?

Hab ne 1 genommen....es ist ja nicht alles Kopfsteinpflaster...die Runde hat etwa 2km, davon 1,5-1,8 Kopfsteinpflaster

I don't know if i see it correct.
Tour du Jura in Switzerland took place in May 2011.
http://www.tourdujura.com/

Should we take it or is there a 2nd tour with this name?

Chrono Nations in 2011 is the same race as in 2010.
http://www.chronodesnations.com/11-circuits-et-profils

Woddeltown Team wrote:Münsterland Giro 2011
The race is completly different to last year.


I haven't found anything about sprints or mountain challenges

Cobbles at the end ? Circuit ? Only * ?
Interesting

ps : There is a problem of altitude for the Hill Circuit in the middle of the race.

olmania wrote:

Woddeltown Team wrote:Münsterland Giro 2011
The race is completly different to last year.


I haven't found anything about sprints or mountain challenges

Cobbles at the end ? Circuit ? Only * ?
Interesting

ps : There is a problem of altitude for the Hill Circuit in the middle of the race.

at the end of the race, there are three rounds through the City of Münster.
One round is about 2km long. 1,5-1,8km (don't know exactly, which street they choose) are asphalt roads, the rest cobbles.

Which altitude you mean?

Woddeltown Team wrote:I don't know if i see it correct.
Tour du Jura in Switzerland took place in May 2011.
http://www.tourdujura.com/

Should we take it or is there a 2nd tour with this name?

Our Tour de Jura has been a fantasy race all the time, designed by Zl. Noone cares about the real Tour du Jura.

Woddeltown Team wrote:

olmania wrote:

Woddeltown Team wrote:Münsterland Giro 2011
The race is completly different to last year.


I haven't found anything about sprints or mountain challenges

Cobbles at the end ? Circuit ? Only * ?
Interesting

ps : There is a problem of altitude for the Hill Circuit in the middle of the race.

at the end of the race, there are three rounds through the City of Münster.
One round is about 2km long. 1,5-1,8km (don't know exactly, which street they choose) are asphalt roads, the rest cobbles.

Which altitude you mean?

There is a circuit in the hills, right ? And this circuit is not equal, I mean that the second lap is lower than the first one, I can see it easily on the graph profile

I guess you mean that there is a hill missing in the 2nd lap?

Okay, i found a mistake, hopefully i corrected it...
the 1st mountain of the rice is once a part of the race

Robyklebt wrote:It's in more than a year, we have time...

Jura should be ZL as usual, 'his' tour, like Anden was Cerros tour until he gave it up, like Sachsen pavé is Liberties tour. Until the original drawer resigns, he should keep it.

Tour de pavés we had 2 good skull years, I like rotation there, but certainly not designing it, don't care.

If nobody is working yet on the Tour des Pavés and skull doesn't insist on doing it, I would give it a try.
Just one thing: Last year we had five stages in five days, the October calendar now says four days, but with nothing interfering on the 5th day currently. Leave it up to the designer to make it 4 or 5? Or 4 days as in the pdf?

no pave-tour from skull this year

Alkworld wrote:

Robyklebt wrote:It's in more than a year, we have time...

Jura should be ZL as usual, 'his' tour, like Anden was Cerros tour until he gave it up, like Sachsen pavé is Liberties tour. Until the original drawer resigns, he should keep it.

Tour de pavés we had 2 good skull years, I like rotation there, but certainly not designing it, don't care.

If nobody is working yet on the Tour des Pavés and skull doesn't insist on doing it, I would give it a try.
Just one thing: Last year we had five stages in five days, the October calendar now says four days, but with nothing interfering on the 5th day currently. Leave it up to the designer to make it 4 or 5? Or 4 days as in the pdf?

4 or 5 days, designer can decide !

Ok, then I'll start with the Tour des Pavés.

Tour des Pavés 2011

5 stages - no TT - no bonifications - no mountain points - lots of pavé and some hills


The first stage is still pretty simple, only short and easy cobblestone parts. Good pave riders with enough sprint should be able to make it here. Named after one of the winners of this year's Scheldeprijs, Manuel Luchs (Team Erkrath RS). Minute tact from km145. Last pave sector: 0*** - 0** - 0**


The second stage is still flat, but a lot more difficult than the first. This is one for the strongest pave riders. Named after one of the winner's of Paris - Roubaix, Howard Wolowitz (Ciclistas). Minute tact from km160.


Next is the first hilly stage with a steep final km on pave (7****), named after Pedro Garrido (Team FL), winner of Omloop Het Nieuwsblad and Gent - Wevelgem. Minute tact from km125.


Before we reach the highlight of tour, another flat stage with medium difficulty, named after Giovanni DellaRocca (Ariostea), another Paris - Roubaix winner. Minute tact from km140.


The longest, steepest and most difficult stage starts slow, then climbs through some medium-sized hills and finishes with some small hills and lots of cobblestones. It's named after Yvon Madiot (Celtic Club), one of the winners of the Ronde van Vlaanderen. Minute tact from km172.

Details of each stage, you can see on the following links:
Stage 1: http://www.radsportfreaks.de/radsport/p ... pave2011_1
Stage 2: http://www.radsportfreaks.de/radsport/p ... pave2011_2
Stage 3: http://www.radsportfreaks.de/radsport/p ... pave2011_3
Stage 4: http://www.radsportfreaks.de/radsport/p ... pave2011_4
Stage 5: http://www.radsportfreaks.de/radsport/p ... pave2011_5

Ziemlich lang die letzte Etappe - 145 Min - da muss man schon paar Stündchen Online sein
Aber letzte Etappe würd ich mir gerne reinziehen - auch wenn ich net mitfahren kann mangels Siegchancen ^^

Lombardia new profile seems to be available

tour de vendee this year is 205 km. (1 km. less then last year), start from LE POIRE SUR VIE
Only the sprint 1, 2 and 3 stay in other position, from CHAMBRETAUD(km.75), the same parcours that last year