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Pokemon Club wrote: I think you make 1 mistake in your reflexion (as 99% of the game probably), it is that you want to compare white road with pave while it is 2 differents things who shouldn't be compare. It is true that we have only one variable but both, pave and WR, and both can make difference, but not for the same reasons IMO. For me looks sure that WR can't deserve **** or *****. But some WR sectors are way longer than cobbles sectors, and it probably affects riders for who it becomes more and more difficultt to stay in their peloton/groups. Moreover white roads don't looks really large, it makes the placement more difficult so and you can even imagine to up WR notation because of that too. And if it rains, it surely make this WR really hard too.
Just to say that Strade Bianche can be adapt in a lot of ways, as for flemish races, and else if I have my personal preference, I don't think that X or Y are wrong, it is just really complex to deal with all factors and find a good balance between the game and the reality for this kind of races.

Idéfix wrote:

luques wrote:

Pokemon Club wrote: I think you make 1 mistake in your reflexion (as 99% of the game probably), it is that you want to compare white road with pave while it is 2 differents things who shouldn't be compare. It is true that we have only one variable but both, pave and WR, and both can make difference, but not for the same reasons IMO. For me looks sure that WR can't deserve **** or *****. But some WR sectors are way longer than cobbles sectors, and it probably affects riders for who it becomes more and more difficultt to stay in their peloton/groups. Moreover white roads don't looks really large, it makes the placement more difficult so and you can even imagine to up WR notation because of that too. And if it rains, it surely make this WR really hard too.
Just to say that Strade Bianche can be adapt in a lot of ways, as for flemish races, and else if I have my personal preference, I don't think that X or Y are wrong, it is just really complex to deal with all factors and find a good balance between the game and the reality for this kind of races.

True but you are not considering one thing.
In puttin 12 kms of ** I am already considering that there will be more energy loss then for example a 2kms ***. So it's useless to put more difficulty.

Imo, if you just put the end as a +5 +1 you get a result which will be more accurate to real race without increasing pavè everywhere.

What I don't like of the +5 +1 is that at the end you risk to get a sprint with a good number of riders when instead in general at the end they arrive one after the other.

Luques you forget one thing. 12km** costs more energy than 2km***, but impossible to create a real selection with **. With ** impossible to break the peloton, even with strong rain + best pavé rider full of power. That's the problem, only the 3% weakest were siebed. Hell no realistic...

Team Kazi Blocks wrote:everybody is talking about the WR. Why not make another function in rsf: the white roads?
Reason: Strong cobbleriders arent always also great WRriders in real.
I thought about a new category like sprint, regeneration or pave skills. Maybe its a good idea?

team fl wrote:

Team Kazi Blocks wrote:everybody is talking about the WR. Why not make another function in rsf: the white roads?
Reason: Strong cobbleriders arent always also great WRriders in real.
I thought about a new category like sprint, regeneration or pave skills. Maybe its a good idea?

A special skill for not even 5 races a year and not half of them being imporant? In my opinion that's too much of an effort.

lesossies wrote:@Poke
The second stage is not in the database.

Do you have a copy or should I adapt it from the 2015 stage ?

auxilium torino wrote:reality offer sebveral and different race and tour

Pokemon Club wrote:

auxilium torino wrote:reality offer sebveral and different race and tour

auxilium torino wrote:

Pokemon Club wrote:

auxilium torino wrote:reality offer sebveral and different race and tour

There is no 5 editions of a race in a day in reality.[/quotefor me are not 5 , only 1 or 2 are in my time region, other big error
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luques wrote:Leso, MSR 2016 will be the same of 2015 BUT with 2 kms less around km 154-159 (Near Voltri) for some changements to the road.
So it will be 291kms.

Can you make it?

team fl wrote:De Panne, Stage 2:

Pavé is not set on the Kemmelberg at km 121, but at km 120. I guess that's not wanted. Maybe the same for km 125?

NicoVanarlo wrote:I heard from poke that they don't go until the top of poggio, they turn before. o it's should be something like 3.5km of climb. It's why 5/4/4 sounds good to me.