June 2020

[el Galactico]

I just give you my personal opinion (yes, maybe I get old) + the things you hear generally in the late hour races since I came back. There is lots of times people complaining about being tired.

10-14-18-20-22 sounds like a very good proposal to me if we want to go for 5 editions. I like that idea.

[Bear]

I am also pro 22:00 because I am one of the tired ones.

5 or 4 editions probably both ok.

[CircleCycle]

pro 5 times and pro 22h last Edition @LeTour
Austria in calendar, but it is cancelled and I doubt there are profiles available (I did not check if they published something, but usually they don't do that too early). Are there alternatives?
What are stages 1-3 of Belgium like?

[Robyklebt]

Looks like 4 editions, 10-14-19-22 to me. More for 5 than 4 here, but the proposal sent to Luques had both 5 ed. and 4 ed., He chose 4, so that counts too, plus many seem in the don't care camp anyway. As am I...

Hansa for TdS-Dauphiné 3, but the only one who said something, looks like 4 then.


Good point about Austria by CC.

If no profiles available for 2020=> Sibiu. Which has the advantage of still being planned actually. But has another problem 02.07.-05.07. So finishes on the same day as Pologne was supposed to start, 05.07. (this is now 05.08, but as we've established around 900 times by now we keep following the originally planned calendar) So? Sibiu one day early? No Sibiu?

If Sibiu not available or not good=Austria 19 (Austria finishes before Pologne start, so that would be no problem)

[gaurain rx]

Belgium Tour done... Just have to see if I don't get better infos about GPM's (but they were no GPM in the past editions) and IS in the roadbooks but I don't think I will.

[Alkworld]

The morning Tour is currently planned at 10am. My personal preference would be 9am as it's a GT with often long stages. 9am usually causes less overlaps with lunch time and for some less interference from work Any other opinions?

[olmania]

The morning Tour is currently planned at 10am. My personal preference would be 9am as it's a GT with often long stages. 9am usually causes less overlaps with lunch time and for some less interference from work Any other opinions?

It's true that 9am worked quite well for Giro.
Chances that I can ride TDF are very low, but I think many of the 9am Giro teams would be interested in a 9am TDF time too (as mentionned in race chat this morning).

[Hansa]

When does roby start updloading?

[Robyklebt]

Waiting for Luques and the PDF.....

[Pokemon Club]

Maybe it can be nice to postponed Mont Ventoux Challenge. Originally the day after Dauphine as the place is not far. But now in competition with Dauphine and TdS as we postponed Dauphine

[Robyklebt]

Luques has updated the PDF.

reload it if it shows you the old one.

TdF 9-14-19-22

No Austria, Sibiu instead, since that is ridden in reality. But postponed one day, 1-4 instead of 2-5. Since on the fifth Poland starts. Hm, actually we could postpone Poland, since that in reality isn't ridden then anymore, and ride Sibiu on the real dates, but ok, that's July.

I regard this as final.

[olmania]

Belgium Tour done... Just have to see if I don't get better infos about GPM's (but they were no GPM in the past editions) and IS in the roadbooks but I don't think I will.

Thanks !
What do you think about shortening the mintackt of stage 2 ? 130min for a 160kms long flat stage

[Hansa]

Belgium Tour done... Just have to see if I don't get better infos about GPM's (but they were no GPM in the past editions) and IS in the roadbooks but I don't think I will.

Thanks !
What do you think about shortening the mintackt of stage 2 ? 130min for a 160kms long flat stage

yes please Change that we dont want 1.5hours flat races^^

[gaurain rx]

Belgium Tour done... Just have to see if I don't get better infos about GPM's (but they were no GPM in the past editions) and IS in the roadbooks but I don't think I will.

Thanks !
What do you think about shortening the mintackt of stage 2 ? 130min for a 160kms long flat stage

Oh yeah, my mistake, 15-10 km Mintakt more than enough there

[Novostil]

Hi friends,

I built 1990 Euskal Bizikleta in La Flamme Rouge. If you want, you'll add in RSF calendar.

https://www.la-flamme-rouge.eu/maps/viewtrack/348505

I can't apply gpx in RSF race editor, password error.

Here info of this race :

http://www.sitiodeciclismo.net/voorloop ... oopid=9080

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euskal_Bizikleta

Regards,

[starwars]

For me the 9h TdF sounds better than the 10h TdF!

[olmania]

Belgium Tour done... Just have to see if I don't get better infos about GPM's (but they were no GPM in the past editions) and IS in the roadbooks but I don't think I will.

Thanks !
What do you think about shortening the mintackt of stage 2 ? 130min for a 160kms long flat stage

Oh yeah, my mistake, 15-10 km Mintakt more than enough there

I guess you made the change ? Maybe we need the upload now ?
Thanks !

[Gipfelstuermer]

Regarding TDF:

I added 1 IS per stage now, as ASO still has not uploaded IS and GPM category. More or less randomly. Most in the middle of the stage, some more at the beginning, some more at the end.

And we are only 3 weeks away from the start. So if everyone is fine with it, I think we can start uploading TDF.

[Hansa]

Regarding TDF:

I added 1 IS per stage now, as ASO still has not uploaded IS and GPM category. More or less randomly. Most in the middle of the stage, some more at the beginning, some more at the end.

And we are only 3 weeks away from the start. So if everyone is fine with it, I think we can start uploading TDF.

At moubtain stages i think the IS should be before the first mountain most of the time because it should be possible for sprinters.

[Rasmussen]

Regarding TDF:

I added 1 IS per stage now, as ASO still has not uploaded IS and GPM category. More or less randomly. Most in the middle of the stage, some more at the beginning, some more at the end.

And we are only 3 weeks away from the start. So if everyone is fine with it, I think we can start uploading TDF.

At moubtain stages i think the IS should be before the first mountain most of the time because it should be possible for sprinters.

Good point. Don't like the Intermediate Sprint before the last climb on a mountain stage, that makes it more likely for a climber to win the green jersey.

[Gipfelstuermer]

Mh, maybe it's not so much about what we like, but what is realistic for a TDF?

Let's look at last year's mountain stages:
Stage 6: IS before first sieb
Stage 12: IS after first sieb (but before first large mountain)
Stage 14: IS after first sieb
Stage 15: IS after first sieb
Stage 18: IS after first sieb (but before first large mountain)
Stage 19: IS after first sieb
Stage 20: IS before first sieb

2x before first sieb
2x after first sieb (but before first large mountain)
3x after first sieb

Now this year my random IS:
Stage 2: IS after first sieb
Stage 6: IS before first sieb
Stage 8: IS after first sieb
Stage 14: IS after first sieb (but before first large mountain)
Stage 15: IS after first sieb
Stage 16: IS after first sieb (but before first large mountain)
Stage 17: IS before first sieb
Stage 18: IS after first sieb

2x before first sieb
2x after first sieb (but before first large mountain)
4x after first sieb

I like discussing the things, and some of the stages actually designed by OL, so O.K. for me if he wants to put IS somewhere else... but overall looks realistic to me.

[olmania]

Mh, maybe it's not so much about what we like, but what is realistic for a TDF?

Let's look at last year's mountain stages:
Stage 6: IS before first sieb
Stage 12: IS after first sieb (but before first large mountain)
Stage 14: IS after first sieb
Stage 15: IS after first sieb
Stage 18: IS after first sieb (but before first large mountain)
Stage 19: IS after first sieb
Stage 20: IS before first sieb

2x before first sieb
2x after first sieb (but before first large mountain)
3x after first sieb

Now this year my random IS:
Stage 2: IS after first sieb
Stage 6: IS before first sieb
Stage 8: IS after first sieb
Stage 14: IS after first sieb (but before first large mountain)
Stage 15: IS after first sieb
Stage 16: IS after first sieb (but before first large mountain)
Stage 17: IS before first sieb
Stage 18: IS after first sieb

2x before first sieb
2x after first sieb (but before first large mountain)
4x after first sieb

I like discussing the things, and some of the stages actually designed by OL, so O.K. for me if he wants to put IS somewhere else... but overall looks realistic to me.

Looks generally ok to me.
Anyway, we can't get it perfect this year due to the lack of info. so we've to take the responsability of putting it somewhere. the most important is that it looks ok, has a balance/meaning according to the general design, and that everyone can see early enough.

[team fl]

Is it possible to adapt the min tact for stage 2 of the Belgium Tour? At the moment it's set at km 64, for a flat stage that is 163 km long.

Edith says, it's already been mentioned:

Belgium Tour done... Just have to see if I don't get better infos about GPM's (but they were no GPM in the past editions) and IS in the roadbooks but I don't think I will.

Thanks !
What do you think about shortening the mintackt of stage 2 ? 130min for a 160kms long flat stage

Oh yeah, my mistake, 15-10 km Mintakt more than enough there

I guess you made the change ? Maybe we need the upload now ?
Thanks !

[Robyklebt]

Luques said he'll do it directly during the Giro...
Yell in the main chat!