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Re: June 2016

Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 2:06 pm
by Pokemon Club
Moscow Team Pro wrote:ZLM tour was canceled?
lesossies wrote:
Pokemon Club wrote:
Alster wrote:Just a question, can we stop ride three different tours at the same time? It's ages since I last rode a tour with more than 12 teams. And from this teams usually are not nearly all online.
Unfortunally, 95% of the teams think it is funnier to play in 3-4 teams group to earn more money so...

Anyway, Dauphiné and Route du Sud are for me. And place Route du Sud or ZLM the week after. Or cancel one of the tour.
If both tours are designed, one of both one week later Ok too.

Re: June 2016

Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 2:22 pm
by whisbone
GP du Canton d'Argovie
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Re: June 2016

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 4:43 pm
by Hunsrueck
Tour du Luxembourg

Prolog 3 km
Same stage as last Year

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Stage 1 hilly 171 Km
Mintakt Km 148

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Stage 2 hilly 163 Km
Mintakt Km 153

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Stage 3 hilly 177 Km
Mintakt Km 151

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Stage 4 hilly 157 Km
Mintakt Km 121

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Re: June 2016

Posted: Sun May 29, 2016 11:17 am
by lesossies
Hunsrueck wrote:Tour du Luxembourg

last stage " Mersch – Luxembourg " the same than last year ?

Re: June 2016

Posted: Sun May 29, 2016 11:40 am
by Hunsrueck
lesossies wrote:
Hunsrueck wrote:Tour du Luxembourg

last stage " Mersch – Luxembourg " the same than last year ?
After a check, i think yes :D

Re: June 2016

Posted: Sun May 29, 2016 12:19 pm
by Pokemon Club
Dauphiné and Route du Sud are OK leso

Re: June 2016

Posted: Sun May 29, 2016 5:12 pm
by Hunsrueck
Hunsrueck wrote:
lesossies wrote:
Hunsrueck wrote:Tour du Luxembourg

last stage " Mersch – Luxembourg " the same than last year ?
After a check, i think yes :D
All done in the database.

Re: June 2016

Posted: Mon May 30, 2016 10:07 am
by luques
Leso on 10.06 there is an ITT of 10kms Ljubljana - Domzale, you wanted or mistake?

Re: June 2016

Posted: Mon May 30, 2016 10:47 am
by Pokemon Club
luques wrote:Leso on 10.06 there is an ITT of 10kms Ljubljana - Domzale, you wanted or mistake?
And route du Sud there is a mistake with the half-stages

Re: June 2016

Posted: Mon May 30, 2016 12:15 pm
by lesossies

Re: June 2016

Posted: Mon May 30, 2016 5:27 pm
by gaurain rx
Cn Belgium

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15*15 = 225km (real circuit is 15,4 and total length 231 km). Mintakt 210.

1/-3/-1/4/-4/0/5/-2/-6/3/0/1/1/-1/2

Re: June 2016

Posted: Mon May 30, 2016 10:35 pm
by IDF
This isn't possible to put Luxembourg in only 4 days instead of 5? Because it will be not possible to do Lux-Dauphiné like that ^^

Re: June 2016

Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 3:18 am
by Pokemon Club
IDF wrote:This isn't possible to put Luxembourg in only 4 days instead of 5? Because it will be not possible to do Lux-Dauphiné like that ^^
You can do Lux-TDS be happy

Re: June 2016

Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 8:11 pm
by Rockstar Inc
Pokemon Club wrote:
IDF wrote:This isn't possible to put Luxembourg in only 4 days instead of 5? Because it will be not possible to do Lux-Dauphiné like that ^^
You can do Lux-TDS be happy
+1

one side tour + one tour out of the main programm should be ok

Re: June 2016

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 1:00 pm
by Moscow Team Pro
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Re: June 2016

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 1:04 pm
by Moscow Team Pro
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Re: June 2016

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 1:34 pm
by Robyklebt
Here we are! Was waiting since March for this!

The big 1 week races for 2016 have all started.

Paris-Nice
Tirreno Adriatico
Catalunya
Pais Vasco
Romandie
Dauphiné
Tour de Suisse

March 2015:

Morning gets: PN, TA and Catalunya with according to the calendar number, that at time is wrong, 8-7-8 teams
Afternoon gets: TA and Catalunya, with 10-9
Early evening: PN+Cat, 11+15
Evening 20-22 I leave out, best time
Late evening: 9+11

April 2015:

Morning: PV+Romandie, PV cancelled because of too few participants, Romandie 10
Afternoon: 7+9
Early evening 13+18
Late evening 9-18

June 2015

Morning 9+5
Afternoon: Only Suisse 15
early evening: 5+10
late evening: nothing offered

So of the 4 "not main times" in 2015
the morning got 7 tours
late afternoon 6
afternoon 5
late evening 4

The total of teams that participated (no guarantee, the number there is often wrong, not going to check all)
morning 47
afternoon 50
early evening 72
late evening: 47

So, mmh, the reaction should be... Let's do the same again! It worked beautifully. Offer all important 1 week stage races to the time that is the weakest, but don't offer it to the stronger times.

And that's what we did:

March

morning 7+8+9
afternoon 9+11
early evening 13+10
late evening 9+12

April:
morning 10+12
afternoon 10+11
early evening 10+13
late evening 11+17

June:

morning 6+10
afternoon 8
early evening 9+8
late evening 12

Conclusion: We have more teams than a year ago, good. The morning recovered from its catastrophic 2015. Where even the Giro was cut when not enough teams were there. Good. How did the morning manage that? By getting everything again, by having leso believing that they deserve a chance. Good. Think about it!!

The morning got everything. Again. Early evening only 6, despite being CLEARLY stronger than the morning. The afternoon got the same as a year ago, 5, despite being on par with the morning generally. Or slightly more teams at times. And the late evening got upgraded to 5, good. Stronger than morning nad afternoon too. But maybe would deserve some 24h starts.

Demand: STOP THIS IDIOCY. There are 2 possibilities (that make sense...)

a) Just stop cancelling times for those 7 important tours. Offer them for EACH TIME. That's my favorite solution. If you need to cancel stuff make it the minor things, not the main things.
b) If you insist on offering some of the overlapping tours less often, make the cuts in sensible places. There is 0 reason to cut the early evening. There is no reason to have the afternoon and the late evening with 2 stage races less than the morning. If you want to keep cutting stuff, make it even, look at the strength of the different times and decide. Want to have only 4 each of TA-PN and Sui-Dau?
Then don't fucking cut always at the same fucking times by being a fucking brainless idiot.

Just choose a) for 2017

I'm already looking forward to complaining again in a year.

Re: June 2016

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:40 pm
by lesossies
gaurain rx wrote:Cn Belgium

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15*15 = 225km (real circuit is 15,4 and total length 231 km). Mintakt 210.

1/-3/-1/4/-4/0/5/-2/-6/3/0/1/1/-1/2
I cannot find Belgium in the database.

Re: June 2016

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 6:39 pm
by sylvainmeteo

Re: June 2016

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 9:58 am
by Rasmussen
The Barcelona - Andorra race from the 29.06.2016 has a kilometer with 41%. That's correct like this? :shock:

Re: June 2016

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 10:39 am
by Pokemon Club
Rasmussen wrote:The Barcelona - Andorra race from the 29.06.2016 has a kilometer with 41%. That's correct like this? :shock:
What a big tunnel :D

Re: June 2016

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:00 pm
by Obk
The -30 looks like freefall, is that correct?

Re: June 2016

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:38 pm
by lesossies
Rasmussen wrote:The Barcelona - Andorra race from the 29.06.2016 has a kilometer with 41%. That's correct like this? :shock:
I changed some extrem values.

Re: June 2016

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 9:57 pm
by lesossies
I dont know why Sibiu has been programmed for June, but OK, I let it in but:
Sibiu start will change to 27.6. It will end on 1.7 vor the begin of the TOUR on 2.7.

Re: June 2016

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 9:09 am
by gaurain rx
I can redraw belgium today... Still have the gpx