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only 12 and 20 for Bolivia? No afternoon tour?

Actually after thinking it over a bit the ape would rather support 5 times for the Andes

The cut time now seems to be the late evening. 10-15-18-21 is written in the preview. No 22/23/24. 22 obviously if we have 21 not perfect, but I'd add 23 if I was you. The evening is the time that usually gets decent sized groups together. It's the morning, afternoon and sometimes the early evening that don't. Cutting the afternoon, who this year had catastrophic GT participations (I don't trust that 12 you write for the Giro, I remember it as under 10..) of course we'll have a decade long Ape campaign as a result, so I recommend against it. Plus with Alkworld announcing a possible start there, even if it's a 1 team group at least it will have kwality So.... IMO make it 5, add 23.

For the rest, add some more "RSF classics" Look at the lists FL, Luques and Taka made. The ape still hasn't found the energy, only did some self promotion for one race.... maybe he'll find the time and energy for a bigger list later. Or somebody else too.
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Last 3 posts. IMO add 3-4 of those during the Andes, so that people who don't ride the Andes, and don't ride the parallel tours can have something as a goal too. And something that gives a few more points. Put them in as cat 2. Those "classics" can be kicked again next year if we find better ones, can be upgraded to 3 after a few year if we love them.

Do you think it is better:
Anden 10,15,18,21,23
Bolivia 13,19,22

Nice for Bolivia

Enfin je dis ça.. mais 3 horaires , ptet un peu juste : je m'explique

il y a énormément de teams de sprinters , il y en a beaucoup qui courent vers 16-18h.. donc ptet que ces teams là ne pourront pas courir du tout Bolivie alors qu'ils ont la team pour .. ^^

IDF wrote:Enfin je dis ça.. mais 3 horaires , ptet un peu juste : je m'explique

il y a énormément de teams de sprinters , il y en a beaucoup qui courent vers 16-18h.. donc ptet que ces teams là ne pourront pas courir du tout Bolivie alors qu'ils ont la team pour .. ^^

Sachant que y a un 3eme tour en parallèle 3 créneau horaire pour Bolivia c'est amplement suffisant. Et 18 ou 19 c pareil, y a quasi jamais de course à 16h en plus et les plus gros groupes sont entre 20-23h donc bon. Ca parait bien comme ca pour les Andes et Bolivia

Uhm Andes and Bolivia both starting 01/11?

luques wrote:Uhm Andes and Bolivia both starting 01/11?

Where do you get that information from? Anyway, Andes should start on a Saturday. 01/11 would lead to a rest day on the weekend.

Alkworld wrote:

luques wrote:Uhm Andes and Bolivia both starting 01/11?

Where do you get that information from? Anyway, Andes should start on a Saturday. 01/11 would lead to a rest day on the weekend.

From the inscription, probably only leso testing, but i know some racepoint hunters that got a heartattack to see it so near

has been changed to 9/11

La Martiniquaise at 6. November with mintact from km 10.

Could you change this please? Such an early mintact doesn´t make any sense for this race.

Thanks!

I updated la Martiniquaise to km131 ... 111 maybe be to long.

I designed Okinawa new, but I´m not sure that the 13% hill 10km for the end is real. ???

lesossies wrote:I designed Okinawa new, but I´m not sure that the 13% hill 10km for the end is real. ???

Possible there is a tunnel

Uhm, one thing, i looked that the TTT in Bolivia is a little in uphill while it is designed as completely flat.

PUNTO MAS ALTO 410 msnm Km 51 Meta – Cristo Redentor
PUNTO MAS BAJO 259 msnm Km 0 Partida–Rotonda Montero

It's like fifteen times a +1 in 50km, i think that the problem is that it grows of 3/4m every km so for the editor is just a 0, what you do in these cases? adding manually?

P.S. Probably it's too late now to change, but would like to understand what is the most used method

When little tours will be programmed ( little tours in // of Anden ) please Leso?

Thx

lesossies wrote:I updated la Martiniquaise to km131 ... 111 maybe be to long.

Perfect, thanks!

IDF wrote:When little tours will be programmed ( little tours in // of Anden ) please Leso?

Thx

I´m not realy sure which tours I´ll take.
Maybe MPu and Noth New Zeland

OK OK , it's just for form settings.. ^^

thx

IDF wrote:OK OK , it's just for form settings.. ^^

thx

You could ask before and don't wait at the last minute so

Can we have a 1 day race for those who don't want to do the Team Time Trial the 13th of November?

Thanks

Why is that ?

Is there usually another race for those who dont want to do flat races ?

NoPikouze wrote:Why is that ?

Is there usually another race for those who dont want to do flat races ?

there's often a parallel race next to a TTT race

Example : 2/05/2013

sylvainmeteo wrote:

NoPikouze wrote:Why is that ?

Is there usually another race for those who dont want to do flat races ?

there's often a parallel race next to a TTT race

Example : 2/05/2013

Don't think leso will put Andes + Atlas Tour + 2 other races, there will be a lack of participants.

In that day the Atlas Tour is a flat race; otherwise move in another day AtlasTour, and maybe 2 single races can be done.

luques wrote:

sylvainmeteo wrote:

NoPikouze wrote:Why is that ?

Is there usually another race for those who dont want to do flat races ?

there's often a parallel race next to a TTT race

Example : 2/05/2013

Don't think leso will put Andes + Atlas Tour + 2 other races, there will be a lack of participants.

In that day the Atlas Tour is a flat race; otherwise move in another day AtlasTour, and maybe 2 single races can be done.

Atlas tour at the middle of a week not a good idea, why not put it in a WE to get more participants...

sylvainmeteo wrote: Atlas tour at the middle of a week not a good idea, why not put it in a WE to get more participants...

Its what I wanted first, but 15.-17.11 was me too late.
Sorry