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THX OL

I had no problem to stat a race every hour of the day 24h/24h.

For this we need more players.

"In a bitter day for the cycling world, comes another "blow". Gianni Biz, organiser of the Giro del Friuli, was arrested today by the Pordenone police with the charge of induction and exploitation of prostitution."

Race plan was decide before the arrest from Patron Biz.
i have some information about the race, (not all), i draw the race with help of this information

anyway the Friuli in calender is very very old (at least 2009)



Monte Paschi(eroica) is the same parcours of last year
the whole palmares from Monte paschi is damage(only 2007?)

auxilium torino wrote:nice statistic, but your statistic is wrong
1 you must only count italian, and split it, then you know how much italian ride and who/when
2 morning italian 8 teams, right, 3 offliner, and, for example, i ride morning (from work), while i cannot ride evening relaxed at home

Langkawi is a shit tour, anyway, 23 hours race was planed too late

That's not wrong, that's the current statistics. It does not mean these stats are true for all the months, all the periods, of course. That's why I said it should be interesting to continue to have a look at the tours compositions in March

For this we need more players.

Marketing plan needed !

The point is not that we need to offer every tour at every time. There aren't enough users for that, of course. But it's about shifting the times around. For important tours too. In march there are 3 important cat 4 tours. Seems logic to me that all "major" times should get one. That means 9-10-11-14-15-16-17-18-19-20-21-22-23-24. Look at SM, he only can at 20-21. Others might only be able to play at 18-19. Others only at 15-16. Or 16-17. Or 20-21. Or 10-11.
What I would have done is:

TA: 11-16-19-21-24
PN: 9-14-17-20-22
Or the other way around. Maybe that way better since 24 with the long stages might be hard... 24 has a tour, for those that that's too late there is 20-21-22 parallel.

Catalunya: 10-15-18-21-23

Result, 21 2 tours, everything else from 9-11 and 14-24 1 . Seems fair to me.
Anyway, doesn't have to be that, but it would seem fair and logic to give 11-16-19-24 one of the 3 tours as well.

In the meantime stage one of De Panne:



Mintact at 144

km128 and km185, it's now possible to put a mountain prize on a pavé km ?

Totally agree with Roby.

I would like to ride TA at 16h because I work till 15:15. If this is not gonna happen, I just have bad luck. So I have to ride a different race or no race, that's it. For another tour it might fit my schedule way better and it works. So, take the times like they are listed and don't complain everytime. Sometimes you have bad luck, sometimes not...

But perhaps this "leave 1 time out"-rule is just useless ? Its always difficult to apply, always leading to a lot of arguing, and in the end i'm not really sure it makes a significant difference on the number of riders per race. I'm just asking...

Edit: Can we have an update of the calendar please ? And what about vuelta murcia ?

What leave one time out rule?

I am not sure to get everything you said ... but

The current facts are just saying that italians are more represented in the morning race the night races.

Then, I think the opposition german/french vs south european is not that good. In all countries people are free in the morning, other in the afternoon and some later in the night. It depends of the individual life style not the national lifestyle. I'm not sure that all german people go to bed at 10pm ! Not sure that all south european people go to bed at 2am ...
But yes I do agree that a late time should be interesting for RSF and its newcomers from south Europe. But please don't say it's because we go to bed early or because your lifestyle is the lifestyle of everybody in your country.
That discussion is senseless and offtopic, I wanted to show that the statistics are not pro "late italian" but that's more complex, even if I agree that a 23-24h time is needed (as the others are )

olmania wrote:I am not sure to get everything you said ... but

The current facts are just saying that italians are more represented in the morning race the night races.

Then, I think the opposition german/french vs south european is not that good. In all countries people are free in the morning, other in the afternoon and some later in the night. It depends of the individual life style not the national lifestyle. I'm not sure that all german people go to bed at 10pm ! Not sure that all south european people go to bed at 2am ...
But yes I do agree that a late time should be interesting for RSF and its newcomers from south Europe. But please don't say it's because we go to bed early or because your lifestyle is the lifestyle of everybody in your country.
That discussion is senseless and offtopic, I wanted to show that the statistics are not pro "late italian" but that's more complex, even if I agree that a 23-24h time is needed (as the others are )

This is not the right place..

Btw Sardegna H22

i sit 4 time in 8 stages for 1 hours every day

2 time team nautico
1 doria
1 time lunabiketeam

Here restouraint close h 23,30 - 24
Here shops close h 22
Here we go work at 8 A.M. and come back h 9,30 P.M.

Not only about lifestile of we italian.. Portugal have 1 hour of difference!
If a portugal guy end work h 22 for the game are h 23.

Let's have ALL tour h 23 - 24 think in big!

Here we go work at 8 A.M. and come back h 9,30 P.M.

Wooow ! You should be in recession so !

uhm I don't think there is a lot to smile..

I go at 8 finish at 13 go to my granma and eat, come back at 14,30 and end at 6 p.m. than i go at my girlfriend house for 2 hours. come back home, i have to play bass - play rsf - eat - have shower, all this in 4 hours becouse i need to wake up at 7,30.. if you think this is fun ok than smile but i pay for play rsf, if the last race of the tour i want to play is at 20.00 i can't race it why I pay? and this situation is for 90% of the italian. Just look Tour de france 2011, h 24 we had 6 or 7 italian players

I see Monte Paschi is in now. This time again with *** for the unpaved roads. Last March, it was ***, in the Giro (which are basically the same roads, aren't they?) **, now again ***. As long as Buhmann doesn't implement these roads in RSF, which I understand that it might be too much effort for max. 2 races / year, we should at least use one common translation. *** and ** just turn out very different in a RSF race, while the real life Giro stage was even won by typical GT specialists as far as I remember, which here would barely be possible with **.

For times:

TA: 11-16-19-21-24
PN: 9-14-17-20-22
Or the other way around. Maybe that way better since 24 with the long stages might be hard... 24 has a tour, for those that that's too late there is 20-21-22 parallel

11h and 16h is almost the worst combination (well, 12h, 17h is worse...). It's jeopardises the morning riders who cant ride at 11h because it interferes with lunch and jeopardises the afternoon riders who can't ride at 16h because it interferes either with going home from work or dinner or family or whatever. But that's my opinion and it's not a "Wunschkonzert" here. Thus, I suggest having either one TA time at 10h instead of 11h or 15h instead of 16h. And of coures this is my subjective view

Good point, hadn't thought of you "workers" lunch and work over...

De Panne finished.





Ends on 250 meters of pavé... so put in *

04 Mar Trofeo Zssdi - Unione dei Circoli Sportivi Sloveni in Italia Ita 1.2 2012



Palmares should be incomplete, i see only that 2011 winner are in, but i'm sure we ride ZSSDI already before

The first Catalunya Profils are on:
http://www.voltacatalunya.cat/ca/noticia/2012-02-27/75/

Who want to draw it ?

Not me right now

By the way, I have to publicly apologize for this:



It seems a certain poster here, dumber than average of course, didn't know which race this was and has asked me politely in a completely useless PN to clearly write what race it was.

Sorry Sorry, for all (exatly ONE) guys who didn't know what it was, here it is:

It's GENT-WEVELGEM

Got it Aux?

Robyklebt wrote:De Panne finished.



Ends on 250 meters of pavé... so put in *

in the TT is the same finish like the 3rd stage (500m Pavé) why no pavé here?

and i also saw on google street view, the street "Zeedijk" (last 2,5 - 1,5 km) is with pavé, isnt it ? just asking

http://users.skynet.be/fa204276/doc/kaart3b.pdf

Will check! You're probably right.

ITT last km *, yep.
Will change it tomorrow.

Zeesomething... mm, yeah, is some sort of pavé too, wil put in * as well. from km 3 to km 2, 2 to 1 nothing, 1 to 0 * again. Tomorrow.Ah, today ok ok. Done.

thanks

Hanzame Classic 195km

question because of "rond om nekere". Last year it was 2* Pavé, this year only 1*. i saw in google street view the finish line and i think it looks a bit harder then 1*, no? Well maybe i have no idea but thats why i´m asking