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ok, i change the date in 2011

Bayern Tour , strange tour, some very hard but short hills, with endless plains in germanys state with the most mountains.

Runde um den Turm, oder auch Rund um den Finanzplatz Franfurt-Eschborn hasn't changed from what I saw, so the 2010 race could be used for the 1st of May 2.HC race.

Ronde von Overijssel, run 7th MAy 2011, UCI 1.2.

as there are not a lot of 1 day races in May, I think it may be more interesting to run 1.2. races as Cat. 1, when there are, compared to fantasy races, or?

Circuit de Wallonie, UCI 1.2. May 8th

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Pro Race Berlin 22.May UCI 1.1.

I've not found the GP Ploumelec Morbaihan in the last year calendar. I will try to draw it.

calendar wrote:Romandie : warm-up for the Giro

Best joke of 2011 ?



Should be :

calendar wrote:Romandie : we (L) Cancellara

Cance will suffer in pain against MArtin...but as far as i know Cance doen't start

Team Franconia wrote:Cance will suffer in pain against MArtin...but as far as i know Cance doen't start

Maybe, but this is definitly not a profile for the Giro specialists (RSF adaptation).

calendar wrote:Romandie : warm-up for the Giro
Best joke of 2011 ?

I know but it is always a good marketing idea for Romandie.

Ok, better make a proposal now then complain later:

Giro: What times?? 10-15-18-20-22? Or what? Would need to know. And btw think that 23 would deserve a GT this year, dec tour after all was well visited at 23 as well. NO reason why a GT shouldn't be. Same for 16 and 19, the completely ignored times too often, 16 hasn't even gotten a cat 4 tour this year, TA-PN-Cat-PV-Rom, 19 the same. 23 has, and has gotten ok participation

So, anyway, for the 3 GTs I propose something like:
10-15-18-21-23 or 20-22
9-14-17-20-22
10(11)16-19-21-23

Don't care which gets which, but there really is no reason to always ignore 16 and 19, and no reason not to offer one for 23 as well.

I just assume the Giro will be 10-15-18-20-22 for the moment, if it isn't no problem, but then the proposal for the thing below will have to be adjusted.

Parallel tours:

HC, so cat 3 tours: Still fairly important, I'd say give them 4 times. Last year 5, was ok yeah, but it's not THAT important, somebody misses out, tough luck

Dunkerque 10/11-16-19-22 Parallel the polish stuff. Change the name for the tour, instead of Gr Pia. make it Sl. Grodow Piat. or something, cut the "stage 1" and just write 1: and should be ok. Offer it 2 times, cat 1 yes, it's 2.1 but really unimportant 2.D in c4all calendar 2007, doubt would be more important now. Something like 12-23 ok. I think. IF MAdrid get's designed too, offer that as cat 2 2-3 times and make the polish stuff a D5+6 Tour. Different times then maybe.

California 9-14-18-21: Parallel: Forget that Fleche du sud, whatever it is. If designed, Picardie in, Cat 2: 3 times, 8-17-23 for example. If designed, Lorraine in (details not on yet) cat 2 3 times, maybe 11-?-22

Belgium-Bayern both cat 3, offer both 3 times: 10-18-21/22 and 15-20-23. All times get one, evening /late evening the extra one. Again, you could probably do 4+4 and still get ok groups, but both races are not that important and you can't have everything. Important races, cat4+, yes, always 4 times, cat 3 some people have to accept they can't sometimes.

Edit: Frankfurt: Used to be cat 4, you changed it to 3 last year, even though it stayed the same UCI classification. But in that case I think downgrading it is correct, it just has lost too much importance in the last years, participation too weak lately to deserve 4. So agree on the 3 for Frankfurt

Just read in another forum about the giro:

Unter den technischen Infos sind jetzt auch die Zeittabellen und die finalen Kilometer online

that means the timetables and final km are online, so I hop Aux can finish the Giro,
well, my team will not go anyway. But it would help us.

Anyone doing Picardie? It's online, but I think the profiles for the last km are still missing.

Not sure, what about Madrid, still no official site or plans to find.
So I guess it would be a good idea to use the polish tour, if the Madrid Tour will not be online.

RohrheimRadler wrote:Just read in another forum about the giro:

Unter den technischen Infos sind jetzt auch die Zeittabellen und die finalen Kilometer online

that means the timetables and final km are online, so I hop Aux can finish the Giro,
well, my team will not go anyway. But it would help us.

Anyone doing Picardie? It's online, but I think the profiles for the last km are still missing.

Not sure, what about Madrid, still no official site or plans to find.
So I guess it would be a good idea to use the polish tour, if the Madrid Tour will not be online.

Picardie is the kind of race I usually draw, but I have no time this year
So if you want to start, go for it ! But, put every stage step by step here, so if I want to help, I have to know which one is already drawn and which one I can do.
Thanks

It's only 3 stages, so would be done quick, ah, do I want to design now? Depending on what happens tommorow I may be busy for 2 weeks, definetly no time next weekend, so ok, I'll start now.

Picardie, please for first stage use the file picardie11_01_2 didn't specify the correct start height, and when trying to overwrite, the graphic still looked the same, so saved at new name.

Time schedule for May:

http://www.radsportfreaks.com/radsport/May_2011.pdf

Dunkerque 9;14;19;21
Gr. Pia 12;23 (WE Tour one time more ?)
GIRO 10;15;18;20;22
Picardie 10;16;20;24 (nice WE-Tour ! 4 times too much ?)
California 8;13;18;21
Lorraine 11;15;23
Bayern 10;15;20;23
Belgique 8;13;18;21

why not 6 times for the GT this year?
i think we have more players, and will be intresting 6 times...
and i think, like roby , that a GT at 23 o'clock is a very good idea!

auxilium torino wrote:why not 6 times for the GT this year?
i think we have more players, and will be intresting 6 times...
and i think, like roby , that a GT at 23 o'clock is a very good idea!

6 times for a gt is too much imo, especially when there are some cat3 tours in the programm too...the more groups you have, the less strong they are...

I'm on Aux' side. Make 6 times... give the paralleltours 4times(as you planed) and then start your random cancelling at XX:35.

But seriously... 6 times for a GT? Ok...then maybe i would find a time too were i could be online in 20 from 21 days... but then give the paralleltours maximum 3 times.

IMO too early to go to 6.

Parallel tours... not sure about Bel-Bayern 4+4, there 3+3 would work IMO.

twice 13 for cat 3 tours, so the main "Nebenprogramm" maybe a bit too much as well for a outsidertime, why not 12 if you want an outsidertime there for one of the 2 13?

Picardie, I would have gone for 3 for sure there, but as you like.

California @ 8, isnt that a bit too early ? Usually those groups are very small. Use 9 imo

Not a single parallel tour at 22, that's not cool!Giro at 22 doesnt mean that other races cant be at that time... (same for the other times ofc)

A bit to much times in the Nebenprogramm, espacially Picardie too much i think

GIRO 20;22 or 21;23 is a difficult question ... I need your feed back
But 5 Times should ne OK.

California 8h or 9h ???? feed back please

Belgique maybe 12h instead 13h would be OK

Picardie not a big problem .... little WE Tour for player who can only at these times, maybe it works well, if not, I can live with.

other tour at 22h ? Lorraine maybe ?