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Re: March 2011

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 9:16 pm
by RohrheimRadler
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And the last two, an interesting tour.

Re: March 2011

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 9:20 pm
by olmania
Good job !
Stage 7, little problem with the final circuit in Barcelona I guess.
What is the % of the Montjuic climb? because I did it this winter, if you take it in the hardest way, this is 2500m really steep and short !

Re: March 2011

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:00 pm
by RohrheimRadler
olmania wrote:Good job !
Stage 7, little problem with the final circuit in Barcelona I guess.
What is the % of the Montjuic climb? because I did it this winter, if you take it in the hardest way, this is 2500m really steep and short !
The Montjuic is not on the final circuit, it's passed only once just before the final circuit, and listed as 1.3km at 4.8%, when drawing I was inconclusife if 5 3 or 4 4 and choose 4 4 as percentages. I'll try to draw again, and look, if perhaps the mountain prize is not on the top, as happened with some climbs.

Yeah, I guess it's not the heaviest way to do the Montjuic, there are 400m, where it's 10%, but over 1km it evens out, on the backside, which is not driven in this version, you have 23% portions.

Re: March 2011

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:35 am
by NoPikouze
On stages 7 and 2 the circuit seems to be lower and lower, you are probably losing 10m at every lap ;)
Not very important anyway.

Re: March 2011

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:12 am
by olmania
RohrheimRadler wrote:
olmania wrote:Good job !
Stage 7, little problem with the final circuit in Barcelona I guess.
What is the % of the Montjuic climb? because I did it this winter, if you take it in the hardest way, this is 2500m really steep and short !
The Montjuic is not on the final circuit, it's passed only once just before the final circuit, and listed as 1.3km at 4.8%, when drawing I was inconclusife if 5 3 or 4 4 and choose 4 4 as percentages. I'll try to draw again, and look, if perhaps the mountain prize is not on the top, as happened with some climbs.

Yeah, I guess it's not the heaviest way to do the Montjuic, there are 400m, where it's 10%, but over 1km it evens out, on the backside, which is not driven in this version, you have 23% portions.
Yes, thank you for ckecking, not the heaviest street, uncool :twisted:
;) ;)

Re: March 2011

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:38 am
by Robyklebt
Tirreno: They seem to have changed the end somehow... when I drew it I'm convinced it was exactly the same as last year, now on the Gazzetta website another final circuit around Macerata. :oops: Sorry

Re: March 2011

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:48 pm
by Pirkio
they changed it the 10 march when the tour was already started ;)

Re: March 2011

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:06 am
by RohrheimRadler
So except Crit. International, which could be put online with the 2010 Stages, all of March is done, or?

So full concentration on April I'd say.

Re: March 2011

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:16 pm
by olmania
I'm going to travel this week, I'll not have time to change the stage of Critérium International, so if someone want to do it, fell free to make it.
Sorry, and thanks. ;)

Re: March 2011

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:39 pm
by lesossies
olmania wrote:I'm going to travel this week, I'll not have time to change the stage of Critérium International, so if someone want to do it, fell free to make it.
Sorry, and thanks. ;)
I update it , no problem !

Re: March 2011

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:15 am
by auxilium torino
warum startet coppi e bartali um 21/3???
in reale ist um 22

Re: March 2011

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:54 pm
by Robyklebt
Rohr:

Catalunya 1:

Today at km 103 we reach -50 meters and stay there for quite a while. Not sure how it influences the stage, maybe you just went down too much somewhere, and the rest is all ok, still, try to pay attention to that stuff as well. We never should end up swimming, my riders forgot their swimming wear!

PS: Of course still don't like the mintact either, for me way to late, would have put it at 120... with only 12 km basically now I'm forced to stay in front of the computer non stop, toilet, 4 important km gone, otherwise only 2... but ok, designer decides... still don't see the sense of putting it that late.

Re: March 2011

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 5:52 pm
by Robyklebt
Went down to -30 once, goal at -40 finally. So probably somewhere in the first part a mistake. Not enough up or too much down.

Re: March 2011

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:17 pm
by RohrheimRadler
Robyklebt wrote:Rohr:

Catalunya 1:

Today at km 103 we reach -50 meters and stay there for quite a while. Not sure how it influences the stage, maybe you just went down too much somewhere, and the rest is all ok, still, try to pay attention to that stuff as well. We never should end up swimming, my riders forgot their swimming wear!

PS: Of course still don't like the mintact either, for me way to late, would have put it at 120... with only 12 km basically now I'm forced to stay in front of the computer non stop, toilet, 4 important km gone, otherwise only 2... but ok, designer decides... still don't see the sense of putting it that late.
Argh, thats stupid, when designing with height, the problem are the rounded percentages, I entered the final at 5m, but somehow with the percentages being calculated from the heights, in the profile they often wind up different then intended, as it generates the heights from the percentages and not vice versa.
How do you do this, when designing, I simply enter the heights at every km, and whatever is calculated out of it, are the percentages. Then I save and pray, must perhaps think about something else.

About the min tacts I'm never sure, for me personally I prefer late min tacts as it often takes the stage much longer, if set too early, but I'm trying to learn.

Re: March 2011

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:22 pm
by NoPikouze
I use the heights but only 10 by 10
The x5 I try to think before counting or eliminating them, and almost never put a 5 in if i think there should be an up or downhill, but directly a +/- 10, and compensating it in the next kms.

Re: March 2011

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:01 pm
by Robyklebt
NoPik is a genius! He uses the same method as the ape.

Re: March 2011

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:45 am
by Robyklebt
Gent Wevelgem, why are we riding the 2010 version? Slightly pissed off, what am I spending my time checking out belgian country roads if then we use old version?

If there's a problem with the design (and I wasn't really happy with it either) say so. Can try to correct. But just taking the 2010 version?

Of course 5 editions is 1 too many with CI and Catalunya parallel as well.

Anyway, I take a nice designing holiday now, since obviously I'm not needed.

Re: March 2011

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:20 pm
by lesossies
Robyklebt wrote:Gent Wevelgem, why are we riding the 2010 version?
I see it yet too, but too late.
I didn´t remark the new one and nobody said anything.
Sorry

Re: March 2011

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:35 pm
by Robyklebt
Interesting test tomorrow.

2 different races, but all at the same time.

Let me be the first one to pronounce the test a failure. 8+13+19+22 all with 2 races. Nice for those guys, kind of sucks for the rest. And of course with lots of sorrow and sadness I had to realize that the afternoon can't race tomorrow.

Let's not try this test again in the future.