August 2011

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Re: August 2011

Post by auxilium torino » Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:34 pm

@ roby...2011 online ;)

http://www.dutchfoodvalleyclassic.nl/index.php

please, if their have old design, not post hier, if not necessary, or i donìt know what is actually or not, thx

tre valli evr not online :(
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Re: August 2011

Post by Robyklebt » Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:44 pm

I know it's online.

But if the 2010 course was the same, we should use that instead of redesigning it.
Dutch food valley classic=Venendaal-Venendaal.
RSF 2010=empty popup
If Leso has the 2010 file somewhere, post it here or put it online, I'll then check if it's the same, if not I design 2011.
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Re: August 2011

Post by NoPikouze » Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:47 pm

it's 100% flat anyway
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Re: August 2011

Post by auxilium torino » Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:55 pm

24 Aug Druivenkoers - Overijse Bel 1.1 2011
look the same at last year, roby, you are the expert, we can let the last year profil, or not?

in moment we need:
Hamburg, change the end
Indre, info from Sylvain
Druivenkoers - Overijse, i think old profile is good
3 Valli, ever not online, i'm ready to draw
Plouay, must draw the last 2 lap
veenendal, roby say is the same as last year; Leso, have you the old design?
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Re: August 2011

Post by sylvainmeteo » Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:05 pm

auxilium torino wrote:24 Aug Druivenkoers - Overijse Bel 1.1 2011
Indre, info from Sylvain
I've sent the race on the database, Leso should put it in the calendar soon ;)
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Re: August 2011

Post by auxilium torino » Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:08 pm

sylvainmeteo wrote:
auxilium torino wrote:24 Aug Druivenkoers - Overijse Bel 1.1 2011
Indre, info from Sylvain
I've sent the race on the database, Leso should put it in the calendar soon ;)
thanks, great!
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Re: August 2011

Post by Robyklebt » Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:23 pm

goddamit, I don't say it's the same, I just say it's likely it is and want to see the 2010 to compare.
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Re: August 2011

Post by auxilium torino » Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:25 pm

sorry, wrong understand, ok, we must wait leso...
settimana lombarda is online, but not die profile
i will draw it
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Re: August 2011

Post by rsv flaschbier » Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:14 pm

I made Zagreb-Ljubljana for Aug., 28th. Saved under zagreb_2011.
It's on the same day as Plouay, so maybe a Div.6 only race.

According to the official pdf the last km is a solid 10%, but all of my maps say it's a 7%.

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Re: August 2011

Post by Robyklebt » Sun Aug 14, 2011 4:50 am

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Ok, tired of waiting.. did it with the automized iBanthing, no guarantee it's precise :lol:
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Re: August 2011

Post by Robyklebt » Sun Aug 14, 2011 1:45 pm

Venendaal-Venendal should be cat 3, as in the past

The Zagreb thing on the other hand, cat 1.
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Re: August 2011

Post by lesossies » Sun Aug 14, 2011 1:58 pm

Robyklebt wrote:Venendaal-Venendal should be cat 3, as in the past

The Zagreb thing on the other hand, cat 1.
Zagreb OK Div 1
I mean Venendaal has been downgraded from 1.HC to 1.1
If you mean it must be kat3 OK you can change it when I am in holiday ;)

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Re: August 2011

Post by Robyklebt » Sun Aug 14, 2011 3:21 pm

Downgraded from 1.hc to 1.1 you mean.
But 1.1 is cat 3... and cat 2 as well.

Need to practice writing with my new keyboard, so I write all again :lol:

The RSF category policy is based on the cycling4all calendar from 2007.

1S=cat 6
1A=cat 5
1B=cat 4
1C=cat 3
1D=cat 2
1E=cat 1

with fantasy races at cat 1 too.

1S the 5 monuments, clear case
1A the other PT races, now World Tour, + Paris-Tours who is not in there anymore but obviously belongs to that category.
1B the most important one day races not included in the Pro Tour, World Tour. This corresponds roughly, but not exactly too 1.HC in UCI speak. There are a few examples 1.HC. UCI, but didn't have 1B. Venendaal was one, GP Indurain still is. Those races were 1C, so cat 3 for us.
1C roughly UCI 1.1
1D roughly UCI 1.1 basically c4a split 1.1 in two groups, more and less important. Kuurne-Bruxelles-Kuurne obviously more important than the Mallorca races in February. UCI both 1.1, c4a made a sensible split
1E roughly UCI 1.2, some 1.1 maybe in as well, not sure.

So, Venendaal, or Dutch food classic... was at 1C when it was 1.HC for the UCI, the downgrade UCI wouldn't automatically mean a downgrade to 1D at c4a. I'm fairly convincend it would have stayed 1C. Which is.. cat3!

So, do it, do it, do it, I don't want to do anything when you're on holiday.
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Re: August 2011

Post by auxilium torino » Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:30 pm

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Re: August 2011

Post by Berlin Marks » Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:56 pm

auxilium torino wrote:Image

Was soll das denn? Wieso jetzt so spät? Wer gibt mir jetzt meinen Formhöhepunkt zurück? Bei diesem Ende hab ich doch nciht den hauch einer Chance, was soll das????

Hab nun mein Formhöhepunkt auf Valli gelegt, mit dem Wissen dass dieses Rennen gefahren wird - dann soll man es gott verdammt nicht in den Kalender stellen wenn es noch geändert wird. - Hätte sonst meine Form auf die tour L'Ain gelegt, hab ich nun nicht, deshalb wurde ich dort mit 1 sekunde Rückstand zweiter.

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Re: August 2011

Post by Robyklebt » Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:05 pm

Berlin Marks wrote:

Was soll das denn? Wieso jetzt so spät?
Weil die Tre Valli Organisatoren die Details erst gestern auf die Website gestellt haben. Oder heute? Konnte nicht vorher gezeichnet werden.

Hab nun mein Formhöhepunkt auf Valli gelegt, mit dem Wissen dass dieses Rennen gefahren wird - dann soll man es gott verdammt nicht in den Kalender stellen wenn es noch geändert wird.
Kommt halt alles in den Kalender damit man weiss was überhaupt läuft. Auch die Sachen die noch geändert werden.. Gerade bei Eintagesrennen sind Aenderungen immer möglich.
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Re: August 2011

Post by auxilium torino » Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:06 pm

Berlin,can you read???
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Re: August 2011

Post by Rockstar Inc » Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:11 pm

ok, with the new TreValli course my decision to ride limousin is almost done...poor markos :(
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Re: August 2011

Post by Berlin Marks » Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:28 pm

Robyklebt wrote:
Berlin Marks wrote:

Was soll das denn? Wieso jetzt so spät?
Weil die Tre Valli Organisatoren die Details erst gestern auf die Website gestellt haben. Oder heute? Konnte nicht vorher gezeichnet werden.

Hab nun mein Formhöhepunkt auf Valli gelegt, mit dem Wissen dass dieses Rennen gefahren wird - dann soll man es gott verdammt nicht in den Kalender stellen wenn es noch geändert wird.
Kommt halt alles in den Kalender damit man weiss was überhaupt läuft. Auch die Sachen die noch geändert werden.. Gerade bei Eintagesrennen sind Aenderungen immer möglich.

und wieso ist es dann nicht im kalender vermerkt, dass es von 2010 ist und noch geändert wird? ich hatte ende Juli nicht die Zeit im Forum danach zu suchen, ob dies die Version 2010 ist und ob geplant uwrde diese noch zu ändern, frech sowas. Einfach sowas vermerken, sind 1-2 Wörter.. kann doch nicht so schwer sein, dann hätte ich problemlos meinen Formhöhepunkt woanders legen können.



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Re: August 2011

Post by auxilium torino » Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:37 pm

das ist immer nett, fur leute das so reagieren, die rennen zu zeichnen...info waren genung, immer auf erste seite des monat ist in unterschiedlichen farben gemerkt welche rennen ist aktuell und welche nicht, und leso hatte dazu noch info uber rennen das nur 2010 version waren.
ein paar minuten hatten gereicht eine idee zu haben, statt die leute hier zu kritisieren, das ihre eigene zeit auch fur dich benutzen, um eine renne bestens zu zeichnen.
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Re: August 2011

Post by Rockstar Inc » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:09 pm

my post wasn't meant as critic...please don't get it wrong...

it was more an announcement ;)
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Re: August 2011

Post by lesossies » Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:53 am

I cannot find the official rules for the vuelta 2011.
Who has the link ?

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Re: August 2011

Post by Woddeltown Team » Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:17 am

rsv flaschbier wrote:I made Zagreb-Ljubljana for Aug., 28th. Saved under zagreb_2011.
It's on the same day as Plouay, so maybe a Div.6 only race.

According to the official pdf the last km is a solid 10%, but all of my maps say it's a 7%.

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Ich hab das Rennen auch gemacht, ohne es zu posten. War ne kurze Absprache zwischen Auxilium Torino und mir.
Egal...im Gegensatz zum PDF-File ist die Strecke nach mehrmaligem nachmessen 3km kürzer. Ebenso
muss ich dir zustimmen, was die letzten drei Kilometer angeht.Gerade die letzten 500m liegen eher bei 0% als bei 10%.

I've done the race already without posting it, becaus it was within a consultation betwann auxsilium torino and myself.
Indeed, i measured up the stage several times, but it is alway 3km shorter than on the pdf-file.
Also the last 3 kms are not about 10%, they are around 5-7% and the last 500m are very close to 0%.

My file is saved under Zagreb1
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Re: August 2011

Post by NoPikouze » Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:30 am

I'm sorry but I think the vuelta needs some improvement!

For example, the pena cabarga (stage 18) is 8 8 7 8 7 8 7 at the moment.
Whereas it should be only 6km and with a very steep last km!!

http://www.climbbybike.com/profile/Pe%C ... rofile.gif

EDIT: Angliru (15) seems good
Farrapona (14) seems really bad, but I have no clue if it's the same as on climbbybike
Manzaneda (11) bad as well
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