January 2012

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Re: January 2012

Post by skull » Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:19 pm

and question to Leso: how many riders per team you make for San Luis ?
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Re: January 2012

Post by el Galactico » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:14 pm

Can we please please adapt the height of Valencia - Albacete on the 2nd??
It is sooo ugly like this. Or choose another race please...
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Re: January 2012

Post by Robyklebt » Sat Dec 31, 2011 4:13 pm

1. down under classic. It's still a criterium.... down to cat 1 please
2. the times

2 long tours.

Chile: 11-17-21
Tachira 10-18-21

Twice the almost same time, plus the tours overlap as well, meaning morning, early evening and evening have 2 choices, afternoon, of course, who else... and late evening nothing.

Change that. Like this no good. double evening, ok. Then all the other times with on time. That means one morning, one afternoon, one early evening, one late evening.

10-18-21
14-20-23
for example. And since the afternoon has better participation than the morning in mountain tours give Tachira to the afternoon.
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Re: January 2012

Post by Robyklebt » Sat Dec 31, 2011 4:25 pm

Ah, and please post the planned times for san luis here in the forum. So at least people who read the forum will know something when planning their form.
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Re: January 2012

Post by auxilium torino » Sat Dec 31, 2011 5:42 pm

good, thanks for info...i don' look at datum... :oops:
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Re: January 2012

Post by Robyklebt » Sat Dec 31, 2011 5:53 pm

ah, since I am in posting mood.

nzl d6+7 is the wrong decision too. All d6-7 tours look the same. "Boring sprints". Is that really all we can offer D6-7 as own stage races? If it is, and it seems to be the case, then just forget the D6-7 tours. Or, then start offering them something more interesting occasionnally too.
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Re: January 2012

Post by Rockstar Inc » Sat Dec 31, 2011 6:02 pm

Marrakech or Crna Gora would have been useful Div6 Tours....
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Re: January 2012

Post by auxilium torino » Sat Dec 31, 2011 10:02 pm

San Luis will be official presented on 15 januar

last news:
stage 1 San Luis-Villa Mercedes app.188 km. Flat
stage 2 Fraga-Juana Koslay app.147 km. flat or Middle mountain
stage 3 Estancia Grande-Mirador Potrero app. 165 km. HC
stage 4 ITT San Luis km. 19.5 (See last year, should be the same)
stage 5 La Toma. Mirador del Merlo app. 160 km.( See last year, should be the same)
stage 6 Lujan-Quines app. 197 km. Mountain stage, 99% last 10 km. are flat after a big descent
stage 7 San Luis-San Luis app. 167 km. (See last year, should be the same)

in moment are not other information available..but i think is better as nothing...
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Re: January 2012

Post by lesossies » Sun Jan 01, 2012 2:05 pm

I would say:
San Luis 10,15,18,21,23 h
8 riders
OK?

I cannot make big changes after the season start.
I could put in a new 14h Tachira

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Re: January 2012

Post by auxilium torino » Sun Jan 01, 2012 2:57 pm

but Chile and Tachira both on 21 hours???
Evening players not chance to play, is not fair
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Re: January 2012

Post by auxilium torino » Sun Jan 01, 2012 2:59 pm

Tachira in moment have not inscript, can change all 3 times, i think

also Down under, why ever this time 18/20/22???
i think, if you got 3 time late afternoon, evening, 18/20/23 or 17/20/23 wuold be better solution, you give more players the chance to play...

10 days tour
CRC 10-15-20
CHI 11-17-21
VEN 9-18-21

3/7 days
BRS 9-13-16-19-22
MAR 9-14-18-20-23
MON 10-16-19-22 (Crna Gore)
TDU 10-15-18-22
NZL 10-17-21
GER 9-13-17-20-22
ARG 10-15-18-21-23
after 22 hours, only this unintresting fantasy tour, for 11-12 hours players only a 10 days tours

brazil and Morocco, 4 time would be enough, TDU must important tour in Januar, must be 5 times, why not 18-20-23 for example???

other error, NZL 17 hours, Paves only for low division, also on 17 hours, but tour overlap from 25 jan.
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Re: January 2012

Post by el Galactico » Mon Jan 02, 2012 2:30 pm

If possible please change Volta Rio to 8 riders. I didn't choose 9 riders for this tour. THX
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Re: January 2012

Post by lesossies » Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:38 pm

el Galactico wrote:If possible please change Volta Rio to 8 riders. I didn't choose 9 riders for this tour. THX
I would do it but I cannot, now that some teams have suscribed with 9 riders.

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Re: January 2012

Post by olmania » Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:43 pm

lesossies wrote:
el Galactico wrote:If possible please change Volta Rio to 8 riders. I didn't choose 9 riders for this tour. THX
I would do it but I cannot, now that some teams have suscribed with 9 riders.
Thanks. I (and others) planned their forms for a 9riders team ! :D

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Re: January 2012

Post by skull » Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:08 pm

the 2012 rout for San Luis is online
Aux - do yourself a favor and take a look at the last year Edititon - it overlaps a lot i think
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Re: January 2012

Post by ProTour-Team » Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:21 pm

For the todays race "Timor Race of Champions" the min-tact starts at km75. As i think this was not planned by the designer, it could be changed for the later versions?

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Re: January 2012

Post by auxilium torino » Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:38 pm

auxilium torino wrote:San Luis will be official presented on 15 januar

last news:
stage 1 San Luis-Villa Mercedes app.188 km. Flat
stage 2 Fraga-Juana Koslay app.147 km. flat or Middle mountain
stage 3 Estancia Grande-Mirador Potrero app. 165 km. HC
stage 4 ITT San Luis km. 19.5 (See last year, should be the same)
stage 5 La Toma. Mirador del Merlo app. 160 km.( See last year, should be the same)
stage 6 Lujan-Quines app. 197 km. Mountain stage, 99% last 10 km. are flat after a big descent
stage 7 San Luis-San Luis app. 167 km. (See last year, should be the same)

in moment are not other information available..but i think is better as nothing...
skull wrote:the 2012 rout for San Luis is online
Aux - do yourself a favor and take a look at the last year Edititon - it overlaps a lot i think
yes , i say this, 2 stage are the same, and one or two are similar
for tomorrow nicght i will draw all the race ;)
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Re: January 2012

Post by Pokemon Club » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:38 am

lesossies wrote:I would say:
San Luis 10,15,18,21,23 h
8 riders
OK?

I cannot make big changes after the season start.
I could put in a new 14h Tachira
only 8 riders for San Luis?

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Re: January 2012

Post by lesossies » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:58 am

ProTour-Team wrote:For the todays race "Timor Race of Champions" the min-tact starts at km75. As i think this was not planned by the designer, it could be changed for the later versions?
Sorry, I read it too late.
It must have been planned this way, maybe not optimal.

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Re: January 2012

Post by ProTour-Team » Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:29 am

Woddel, the designer, was in my race and he said it wasnt ;)
May he put it in by mistake or he just forgot it and km75 is the standard..

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Re: January 2012

Post by Woddeltown Team » Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:40 pm

ProTour-Team wrote:Woddel, the designer, was in my race and he said it wasnt ;)
May he put it in by mistake or he just forgot it and km75 is the standard..
I thought, i did the min-tact later, but as i said yesterday, i haven't controlled it until my own race yesterday.
Sorry for that, was not my opinion to start it that early :oops:
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Re: January 2012

Post by auxilium torino » Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:08 pm

gibt eine vernunftiges grund, warum die 10+ tages tour nur um 20 oder 21 uhr geplant sind, sind die spat spieler nicht gut genug???
Nautico wollte Cosat rica fahren, geht nicht, chile, auch nicht, tachira, auch nur um 21???
sind 22 oder 23 uhr gestrichen???finde schon Scheisse, wenn die worte mir erlauben, fair, soweiso nicht, weil nìein teil von spieler hier deutlich benachteilig sind
wurde schon von tages daruber gesprochen., trotzdem bleibt so...Doria , nautico und ander konnen vor 22 oder 23 nicht, ware es nett, wenn uber 3 tour, eine um 21, eine um 22 und eine um 23 uhr geben, wurden, nicht alle gleichzeitig...inzu Chile und Tachira sind beide um 21, und werden sich und wer fahrt chile, kann nicht sich auch fur tachira anmelden...es ware zeit an alle spieler zu denken, danke!
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Re: January 2012

Post by lesossies » Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:00 am

auxilium torino wrote:gibt eine vernunftiges grund, warum die 10+ tages tour nur um 20 oder 21 uhr geplant sind, sind die spat spieler nicht gut genug???
Nautico wollte Cosat rica fahren, geht nicht, chile, auch nicht, tachira, auch nur um 21???
sind 22 oder 23 uhr gestrichen???finde schon Scheisse, wenn die worte mir erlauben, fair, soweiso nicht, weil nìein teil von spieler hier deutlich benachteilig sind
wurde schon von tages daruber gesprochen., trotzdem bleibt so...Doria , nautico und ander konnen vor 22 oder 23 nicht, ware es nett, wenn uber 3 tour, eine um 21, eine um 22 und eine um 23 uhr geben, wurden, nicht alle gleichzeitig...inzu Chile und Tachira sind beide um 21, und werden sich und wer fahrt chile, kann nicht sich auch fur tachira anmelden...es ware zeit an alle spieler zu denken, danke!
1) I was not sure to get good fields at 23h for these not very loved 10+ days Tours.

2) San Luis will start at 23h

3) The tours came very late and nobody asked for a 23h tour.

4) Look at the february calendar to plan it with all

5) if enough teams ask for a time I allways try to do my best

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Re: January 2012

Post by auxilium torino » Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:53 am

in prinzip ist jetzt zu spat, aber kann nciht sein das uber drei nur an die fruh abend gedacht wurden...ubrig, Tachira ist noch keine gemeldet, von 21 bis 22 oder 23 zu verschieben ware nicht unmoglich

und tachira endet um 22 januar, San luis startet um 23 januar...ware auch kein problem,, sonder besser
weil um 20 uhr gbt schon TDU und 21 chile ;)
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