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Brr after this two hours i really hate Italian Maps.
The roadbook is not very useful in my opinion, but better than nothing. I did my best, hopefully i got it right.
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1.) I changed the name. Or do i have to change the filename? If both maybe Leso can fix it.Alkworld wrote:Three things come to my mind here:
1) Pls use the name of the race of the previous years ("Lombardia"). That way the history in the statistics continues to work.
2) As this is one of the highlights of the year for most teams, the minute tact should start later. I would recommend at least km186 or maybe even around km150.
3) It seems to me that the last hill looks a bit smaller than in the published profile, which seems to be very detailed (http://www.grassyknolltv.com/2011/giro- ... 11_alt.jpg):
- from 228,6 - 232, they go up 240m, you go up 220m from 228 - 232
- from 232-238, they go down 320m, you go down 300m
It sounds like a small difference, but in RSF it changes the race drastically. And as this is the most decisive climb in the whole race, we should clarify, who is using the better map
1) I think name is enough, but the calendar experts can say what it's likeWoddeltown Team wrote:1.) I changed the name. Or do i have to change the filename? If both maybe Leso can fix it.Alkworld wrote:Three things come to my mind here:
1) Pls use the name of the race of the previous years ("Lombardia"). That way the history in the statistics continues to work.
2) As this is one of the highlights of the year for most teams, the minute tact should start later. I would recommend at least km186 or maybe even around km150.
3) It seems to me that the last hill looks a bit smaller than in the published profile, which seems to be very detailed (http://www.grassyknolltv.com/2011/giro- ... 11_alt.jpg):
- from 228,6 - 232, they go up 240m, you go up 220m from 228 - 232
- from 232-238, they go down 320m, you go down 300m
It sounds like a small difference, but in RSF it changes the race drastically. And as this is the most decisive climb in the whole race, we should clarify, who is using the better map
2.) I took the minute tact at 220...and you say later? Or you mean earlier?![]()
3.) at 228 to 232 i go up 260 (4,6,6,9,1)...mh don't know....checked the profile twice. I don't know it we use it or we should change it.
From km 233 to 238 you are right, i did a mistake at 235.
Thx for feedback
Okay i put the minute tact on 190km. I guess earlier makes no sense, because the race becomes longer and longer.Alkworld wrote: 1) I think name is enough, but the calendar experts can say what it's like
2) Yes, I meant earlier
3) with 228 - 232, I meant 228,0 - 232,0. So these would be only 4km, not 5 like you mention
About Lombardialesossies wrote:http://www.cycling4freaks.com/radsport/October_2011.pdf
Who want to draw ?
Tours:
Beijing -> RKL
Tour des Pavés -> Alkworld
Jura -> ZL
1 day races:
Paris Tours
Binche - Tournai -> should be the same ?
Paris Bourges -> seems to be the same ?
Sluitingprijs -> should be the same ?
Chrono Nations -> the same
October 2011
01 Oct Memorial Marco Pantani (Gsemilia.it) Ita 1.1 2011
01 Oct Piccolo Giro di Lombardia Ita 1.2 2011...AUX draw it
02 Oct Tour de Vendée Fra 1.HC 2011
03 Oct Sparkassen Münsterland-Giro Ger 1.1 2011
02 Oct? Criterium International de la Comunidad Valenciana Esp Cri -
04 Oct Binche - Tournai - Binche Bel 1.1 2010
05-08 Oct? Grand prix Chantal Biya Cmr 2.2 X
05-09 Oct Tour of Beijing Chn WT 2011
06 Oct Coppa Sabatini Ita 1.1 X....AUX draw it
06 Oct Paris-Bourges Fra 1.1 2011
06-09 Oct Tour of Alanya Tur 2.2 X
07 Oct Zwevezele Koers Bel Nat 2011
08 Oct Giro dell'Emilia (Gsemilia.it) Ita 1.HC 2011....AUX draw it
09 Oct Gran Premio Bruno Beghelli (Gsemilia.it) Ita 1.1 2010....AUX draw it
09 Oct India Cyclothon Delhi Ind 1.2 2011
09 Oct? Paris-Tours Fra 1.HC 2010
09 Oct? Paris-Tours "Espoirs" Fra 1.2U 2010
10-18 Oct? Tour of Hainan (Tohcr.com)Chn 2.HC 2011
11 Oct Nationale Sluitingprijs - Putte-Kapellen Bel 1.1 2011
12 Oct Milano-Torino Ita 1.HC let the old version, as ever![]()
13 Oct Giro del Piemonte / Gran Piemonte Ita 1.HC 2010....AUX draw it
15 Oct Giro di Lombardia Ita WT 2011....AUX draw it
15-23 Oct? Tour do Brasil Volta Ciclística de São Paulo-Internacional Bra 2.2 2010
16 Oct Chrono des Nations Les Herbiers Vendée Fra 1.1 2011
18-23 Oct? National Championships Medellín (Ciclismodecolombia.com) Col NCH 2010
19-30 Oct? Vuelta a Guatemala (Edosof.com) Gua 2.2 2010
21-30 Oct? Tour du Faso Bur 2.2 2010
21-23 Oct? Tour de Seoul Kor 2.2 2010
22 Oct? Tour of Taihu Lake (.org) Chn 1.2 2010
23 Oct? Criterium Vuelta a Chihuahua Internacional Mex Cri 2010
23 Oct? Japan Cup Cycle Road Race Jpn 1.HC 2010
23 Oct-02 Nov? Speedy Tour d'Indonesia (Telkomspeedy.com) Ina 2.2 2010
29 Oct? Cancun Cycling Challenge Mex Cri 2010AUX draw it
29 Oct? Criterium Ciclista Ciudad de Oviedo Esp Cri 2010
Same profile then 2010
new profile online to draw
new profile online drawed
not proflie online
delete
Woddeltown Team wrote:Okay i put the minute tact on 190km. I guess earlier makes no sense, because the race becomes longer and longer.Alkworld wrote: 1) I think name is enough, but the calendar experts can say what it's like
2) Yes, I meant earlier
3) with 228 - 232, I meant 228,0 - 232,0. So these would be only 4km, not 5 like you mention
For the height, i don't know if it makes sence....anyone other opinions would be great to it
Nearly perfect? Mh...if you think so. The Profile is really good yes, the road map is so lala and actually the road book could be better.auxilium torino wrote:a little explication for Woddeltown Team:
in internet give no race that is nearly good explained like rcs/gazzetta race.
Profile, plain and Cronotabella(roadbook) are nearly perfect, italian are one of the few side that give altitude too in cronotabella, that make your job very easy, that you can control at every important passage the right altitude.
RCS/Gazzetta profile are ever reallly close to T4B design, normal, if you look good at plain, you need few time to draw it.
Different point of views, but okay, everyone has other opinions.auxilium torino wrote: second, really important too:
1 km./tac. must start before km. 186, while the Ghisallo is the must important piece in this race, and km. 188 to 190 are very selective, and this is the key issue.
Downhill from Ghisallo:iBanesto wrote:Two odd things:
1. Downhill from Ghisallo: -5 -9 -1 -5 -2 -5 -3 1 0 2 0 -5 -9 2 -11 -5
It doesn't look steep anywhere in the Gazzetta profile and it doesn't look steep here http://www.salite.ch/7000/7327.gif
2. Flat section between Ghisallo and Villa Vergano. It's perfectly flat in the Gazzetta profile, but you have those odd bumps in there. Are you sure these aren't faults from T4B or whatever you used?
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