October 2025

[Gipfelstuermer]

Final PDF
October 2025

Races to be designed:
CRO Race >>> TDM
European Championships ITT >>> OL
European Championships TTT >>> Gip
European Championship Road Race >>> OL
Trofeo Tessile e Moda - Valdengo Oropa >>> Gip
Gree-Tour of Guangxi >>> Tukh
Tour des Paves >>> Laugenspitze


Races to be checked:
Münsterland Giro >>> Gip
Giro dell'Emilia >>> Gip
Coppa Agostoni - Giro delle Brianze >>> Gip
Coppa Bernocchi >>> Gip
Tre Valli Varesine >>> Gip
Binche - Chimay - Binche / Mémorial Frank Vandenbroucke >>> Gip
Gran Piemonte >>> ECS
Tour de Vendée >>> Radunion
Il Lombardia >>> Hansa
Paris - Tours Elite >>> OL
Giro del Veneto >>> Taka
Utsunomiya Japan Cup Road Race >>> Gip
Veneto Classic >>> Gip
Chrono des Nations >>> Gip

Legend
BLUE = Designer found
GREEN = DONE

[cataracs]

NCs?

[Gipfelstuermer]

New route, same final circuit.
Hoxberg +3
Stromberg +3
Pilatusberg +2
Local knowledge welcome.



same as last year



The way I understand the roadbook, there is one additional lap and there is a GPM every lap (but one IS less in the beginning).



same as last three years

[Gipfelstuermer]

NCs?

Ah, yes. 31st October we concluded? Fine for me.

Btw, for the offseason, if you already have ideas about the editions of each race (fantasy tours & offseason classics), you can let me know. Then I will add it for the PDF.

[cataracs]

NCs?

Ah, yes. 31st October we concluded? Fine for me.

Btw, for the offseason, if you already have ideas about the editions of each race (fantasy tours & offseason classics), you can let me know. Then I will add it for the PDF.

I added them to the calendar already you can check the times there.

Brescia statues "archived" that's not a problem?

[Gipfelstuermer]

Brescia statues "archived" that's not a problem?

No problem.

[olmania]

Paris Tours has changed a bit the route, will try to design it next weekend

had some time now. only minor changes : one less sector (0.5km) and less kms between the last hill and the finish line.
Took some time to look at the hills and sectors in details, made a few changes from the previous design (that was very old). I don't know why there was a *** as it's gravel. I'd be ok to have a *** to simulate the selectiveness of that first key sector after the climb; but it's very different to what we usually have on other races with gravel. So went back to **. If we have a *** for gravel here, why not in strade or other races where it makes sense also to increase the selectiveness of gravel road ?

[olmania]

Tour de Vendée announced a new route. but no details yet. will check again later.

Chrono des nations is the same, but I noticed there is one km too much in the previous design, need to remove the last km to make it 45kms; and finish on the 1% instead. Maybe they changed the end in the past years at some point and we did not notice.

[olmania]

I have a few extra kms, due to the multiple circuits being .5

[Gipfelstuermer]

Races to be designed:
[...]
Tour des Pavés

Who would like to design it this year?

[Hoefs Cycling Team]

If nobody else want...i want to design it

[Hansa]

2025 lombardia profile is up, in the first look looks like 2023 edition.

https://www.ilombardia.it/en/the-route/

[Laugenspitze]

Just talked to "Hoefs". He is fine with me designing the TdP.

I will start doing it ...

[team fl]

2025 lombardia profile is up, in the first look looks like 2023 edition.

https://www.ilombardia.it/en/the-route/

Looks very much like it. In the final kms, there are around 200m of cobblestones during the last climb (steepest part, up to 12%). I think we've never had that shown in the profile so far. I guess they are not really important regarding the outcome of the race? (attacks, siebs, etc.) or is 200m just too little to have them in the profile?

[olmania]

could not find euro ITT in the list in the calendar editor.

[TDM_Luxembourg]

I am designing the Cro Race

[Laugenspitze]

Tour des Pavés

Details in the calendar preview. Hope the names fit in the habits.





ITT - Half stage.


Second Half stage.

[team fl]

Sten is happy to get a stage too, although he would fancy more a RVV typ stage. But I don't know what to think about halfstages in a stage race, that is well known for energy problems already.

[Laugenspitze]

But I don't know what to think about halfstages in a stage race, that is well known for energy problems already.

My first TdP design. If more people see it this way, I can still change things. A shorter ITT, for example.

[Gipfelstuermer]

It's certainly one of the more difficult TdP designs, but in the end it's a tour for specialized riders and not all riders always have to start at 1000 energy. I think it can make racing interesting when Reg plays a bigger role in a few races per year. I'm writing this with Avg. Reg of 40.6 in my team

[Hansa]

I like it let the Chaos ensue after the itt

[flockmastoR]

It's certainly one of the more difficult TdP designs, but in the end it's a tour for specialized riders and not all riders always have to start at 1000 energy. I think it can make racing interesting when Reg plays a bigger role in a few races per year. I'm writing this with Avg. Reg of 40.6 in my team

Does reg really play a bigger role? Everybody gets 2* reg value after the ITT, so the difference between 35reg rider and a 65 reg rider is just 60 energy. Compared to a longer TT (as regular stage not half stage), reg plays a minor role (just ITT/hilly half stages context). As noone will start fit after the ITT, this takes away some tactical opportunities IMO.

[Tukhtahuaev]

Reg plays a bigger role because it looks rather difficult to start the next day fit, if you have low reg. But tactical opportunities within the TT are pretty much nonexistant

[Laugenspitze]

I think I'll take the risk and leave it as it is. The second half-stage has a lot, a lot of downhill.

[cataracs]

It's not the first time we get a half stage Itt. Don't see any issues with it, regeneration skill is part of the game.