September 2025

[Gipfelstuermer]

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September 2025

Races to be designed:
La Vuelta Ciclista a España >>> TDM
Tour of Britain
Tour de Luxembourg
CRO Race
WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS ITT >>> Hansa
WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS Road Race >>> Hansa

Races to be checked:
Maryland Cycling Classic >>> Gip
GP Industria & Artigianato
Giro della Toscana - Memorial Alfredo Martini
Gran Premio città di Peccioli - Coppa Sabatini
Grand Prix Cycliste de Québec >>> Tukh
Memorial Marco Pantani
Grand Prix Cycliste de Montréal >>> Tukh
Trofeo Matteotti
GP de Fourmies / La Voix du Nord >>> OL / Gip
Grand Prix de Wallonie
Kampioenschap van Vlaanderen
SUPER 8 Classic >>> TDM
Gooikse Pijl
Giro della Romagna
Grand Prix d'Isbergues - Pas de Calais
Omloop van het Houtland
Grand Prix Cerami
Paris-Chauny >>> OL

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[Hansa]

Lets discuss, the Pave i have on * as it doesnt look hard in the Streetview.
very Long mintact on the Roadrace sets the race on 188 minutes thats very long but how much does it matter having it 2.5 or 3 hours?

[cataracs]

Lets discuss, the Pave i have on * as it doesnt look hard in the Streetview.
very Long mintact on the Roadrace sets the race on 188 minutes thats very long but how much does it matter having it 2.5 or 3 hours?

It matters, if it's 3 hours I can't be there for the finish, but if it's 2.5h I can be online.(assming the race is at 15h)

We don't need mintact in a hill 100km before the end, most likely nothing will happen there, and basically everyone have 80 minutes to think about what to do during the hill so no need for such a long mintact.


For the ITT it's shown as normal race now but we already tested TT on the test server, so why not just put it same day of road race and for national teams?

[Bugatti]

Tour de Luxembourg and ITT World champions at the same day? Is that possible?

Maybe we can add a great tour from the women's from 22.9 till 26.9?

It's a Sunday at the WC... So let's go for the later mintact.

[olmania]

Lets discuss, the Pave i have on * as it doesnt look hard in the Streetview.
very Long mintact on the Roadrace sets the race on 188 minutes thats very long but how much does it matter having it 2.5 or 3 hours?

agree, the pave does not look hard. hard to guess what will be the effect on the race, if it will matter as much as the slope in the repetition of the laps. IRL circuit looks quite technical with many turns and these two short climbs; probably very selective, far from the line. climbers and classic men fighting there ?

it's ok to me to leave it as 6* ; also ok to make it 6**, giving more chance to some classics with pavé skills to be WC in RSF (does not happen often !); but would be a strong bias/decision. Difficult to make the climbs steeper according to the real gradients. 6% not so selective in RSF; but again, that's ok I think.

To have more d+ in RSF; and less difference compared to IRL, maybe the circuit could be slightly modified. There are short bumps (300-500m max); these could be a little exaggerated to get a 1% or 2% somewhere in the flatish/dh section of the circuit ? and balance with heavier flat/dh %. this could also get the race more interesting especially for offensive moves and attacks ! (for example, it's seems that km137 -a 3%- shows that well, was probably auto generated and you missed to modify it / include it in usual the circuit because loop before the extra bigger loop ?).

only thing I'd change is the "Cote du Peage" near km149. no flatish km at the top. 5-6% for the 2kms of climbs; or 6-5; or 6-6; and dh comes directly after the top and km143 just before should be the usual 6%, cote du golf no ?

Mur de Kigali : would not be shocked to have a 5% there; cobbles look a bit harder. 5** could be ok and interesting race wise.

[Radunion]

Nothing to add, with the many one-day races, there is no need for more tours. Looks very nice.

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[Gipfelstuermer]

New course in 2025 after the cancellation in 2024.

[Tukhtahuaev]

Quebec circuit seems to be different this time. Could design it this weekend
Montreal looks the same

[olmania]

New course in 2025 after the cancellation in 2024.

Nice !
it seems there is a cobble street in the circuit, thames street. maybe you can add a sector (I did not calculate how long it is) as it looks like real pavé, and not usual super easy city pave (** if the sector is long enough; * if not) ?
also the climb seems to be taking about 200feet, so 61m; a 6% there instead of a 5% maybe ?
With these two changes, the race with its many turns in the city center, a sieb climb and a short pavé sector; becomes more of a "classic" than a simple flat race.

[olmania]

Fourmies looks similar. execpt the very beginning, but not important in terms of distance and %. as of now, I'd suggest to use last year version

Chauny looks the same; only the usual distance issue because of circuits; but the look and spirit is the same and good. can be re used too imo.

[Gipfelstuermer]

Nice !
it seems there is a cobble street in the circuit, thames street. maybe you can add a sector (I did not calculate how long it is) as it looks like real pavé, and not usual super easy city pave (** if the sector is long enough; * if not) ?
also the climb seems to be taking about 200feet, so 61m; a 6% there instead of a 5% maybe ?
With these two changes, the race with its many turns in the city center, a sieb climb and a short pavé sector; becomes more of a "classic" than a simple flat race.

Yop, thanks, I've added Thames Street 0**.

Regarding the climb LFR has it at 4.7% only (might be right or wrong), but it's my best guess so I kept it at 5%.

[olmania]

Nice !
it seems there is a cobble street in the circuit, thames street. maybe you can add a sector (I did not calculate how long it is) as it looks like real pavé, and not usual super easy city pave (** if the sector is long enough; * if not) ?
also the climb seems to be taking about 200feet, so 61m; a 6% there instead of a 5% maybe ?
With these two changes, the race with its many turns in the city center, a sieb climb and a short pavé sector; becomes more of a "classic" than a simple flat race.

Yop, thanks, I've added Thames Street 0**.

Regarding the climb LFR has it at 4.7% only (might be right or wrong), but it's my best guess so I kept it at 5%.

I relied on their official website and graph there for the climb. Made it by hand myself to check; looks like a 6% for real the top of the climb in LFR is not exacly good (too late). also LFR does not have the little up/down before the climb starts for real; that should explain why they have 4.7% and not 6.1% !
Good for thames street

[TDM_Luxembourg]

Super 8 classic stays the same

[Radunion]

If nobody has time for it over the weekend, I can work on Britain next week. Looks like everything we need is on their webpage.

[Tukhtahuaev]

Different circuit. In my opinion 6 3 is the best interpretation of the final 2km