January 2025
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January 2025
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January 2025
Races to be designed:
Tour Down Under
Classica Camp de Morvedre
Clàssica Comunitat Valenciana 1969 - Gran Premi València
Races to be checked:
Villawood Men's Classic
Gran Premio Castellón - Ruta de la Cerámica
Trofeo Calvià
Trofeo Felanitx-Ses Salines
Trofeo Serra Tramuntana
Legend
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GREEN = DONE
January 2025
Races to be designed:
Tour Down Under
Classica Camp de Morvedre
Clàssica Comunitat Valenciana 1969 - Gran Premi València
Races to be checked:
Villawood Men's Classic
Gran Premio Castellón - Ruta de la Cerámica
Trofeo Calvià
Trofeo Felanitx-Ses Salines
Trofeo Serra Tramuntana
Legend
BLUE = Designer found
GREEN = DONE
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Re: January 2025
I can do the tour down under.
Re: January 2025
I start with comparing the in-game calendar with the UCI calendar. I hope to keep this up in the future as well.
stage races
1/21/2025 - 1/26/2025 Santos Tour Down Under, 2.UWT - in calendar
1/28/2025 - 2/1/2025 AlUla Tour, KSA, 2.1 - should be ridden as there is no tour overlapping it and some strong riders and teams will be there
one-day races
1/25/2025 1/25/2025 Gran Premio Castellón - Ruta de la Cerámica ESP 1.1 - in calendar
1/26/2025 1/26/2025 Clàssica Comunitat Valenciana 1969 - Gran Premi València ESP 1.1 - in calendar
1/29/2025 1/29/2025 Trofeo Calvià ESP 1.1 - in calendar
1/30/2025 1/30/2025 Surf Coast Classic - Men AUS 1.1 - not in the calendar, could be ridden on 28. instead of the fantasy race.
1/30/2025 1/30/2025 Trofeo Felanitx-Ses Salines ESP 1.1 - in calendar
1/31/2025 1/31/2025 Trofeo Serra Tramuntana ESP 1.1 - in calendar
In summary, I see no reason not to ride ALUla, as it ends before the next stage races begin in February. The profile looks nice, and decent participation is expected in real life. Even if I had not checked the profile yet, the race in Australia would be preferable to a fantasy race.
stage races
1/21/2025 - 1/26/2025 Santos Tour Down Under, 2.UWT - in calendar
1/28/2025 - 2/1/2025 AlUla Tour, KSA, 2.1 - should be ridden as there is no tour overlapping it and some strong riders and teams will be there
one-day races
1/25/2025 1/25/2025 Gran Premio Castellón - Ruta de la Cerámica ESP 1.1 - in calendar
1/26/2025 1/26/2025 Clàssica Comunitat Valenciana 1969 - Gran Premi València ESP 1.1 - in calendar
1/29/2025 1/29/2025 Trofeo Calvià ESP 1.1 - in calendar
1/30/2025 1/30/2025 Surf Coast Classic - Men AUS 1.1 - not in the calendar, could be ridden on 28. instead of the fantasy race.
1/30/2025 1/30/2025 Trofeo Felanitx-Ses Salines ESP 1.1 - in calendar
1/31/2025 1/31/2025 Trofeo Serra Tramuntana ESP 1.1 - in calendar
In summary, I see no reason not to ride ALUla, as it ends before the next stage races begin in February. The profile looks nice, and decent participation is expected in real life. Even if I had not checked the profile yet, the race in Australia would be preferable to a fantasy race.
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Re: January 2025
To name a few, reasons could be:
- It is only cat 2.1
- There are cat 1.1 one day races in parallel
- It is not only about category but also about participants (which WT teams have signed up?)
- The timing isn't perfect between TDU and the many tours we will likely have starting early Feb (whereas in other months UCI calendar is so empty we even add cat 0.0 stage races!)
- Someone will need to design it and it won't be the calendar manager
- It has never been ridden before in c4f, I think, for lack of popularity
- We have 3 other tours in the month already
Would any of those reasons be valid for you?
Having said that, if many people want to ride it, it's not impossible.
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Re: January 2025
Teams from this year's results: Bora, UAE, Jayco Alula, Cofidis, Movistar, Euskatel, Total Energies, Bahrain Victorious, Tudor, Uno X, Astana, Quickstep, DSMGipfelstuermer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2024 11:25 pmTo name a few, reasons could be:
- It is not only about category but also about participants (which WT teams have signed up?)
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Re: January 2025
-15th wrong fantasy race. Should be Itaburito
-Castellon+Valencia cat 2 and 8 riders better.
-That surf thing IF ridden certainly not on the wrong date. 30.01. then would have 2 one day races. No problem 02.02. has 3 of them, there makes sense to move one, but with 2 the logical thing is just to do 2 editions each. Or 3 each.
- Do we really need stuff like Classica Camp de Morvedre, x.2, in the calendar? Or preview? Isn't that a bit of designer-talent waste to have people spend time with stuff like this?
-Saudi race
If designed it fulfills all the criteria to be ridden, was surprised it wasn't in the preview actually.
-Castellon+Valencia cat 2 and 8 riders better.
-That surf thing IF ridden certainly not on the wrong date. 30.01. then would have 2 one day races. No problem 02.02. has 3 of them, there makes sense to move one, but with 2 the logical thing is just to do 2 editions each. Or 3 each.
- Do we really need stuff like Classica Camp de Morvedre, x.2, in the calendar? Or preview? Isn't that a bit of designer-talent waste to have people spend time with stuff like this?
-Saudi race
That argument has my full supportGipfelstuermer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2024 11:25 pm- Someone will need to design it and it won't be the calendar manager
I hope we don't add cat 0.0 anymore in season. The alpha gang will oppose every single attempt!Gipfelstuermer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2024 11:25 pm- The timing isn't perfect between TDU and the many tours we will likely have starting early Feb (whereas in other months UCI calendar is so empty we even add cat 0.0 stage races!)
Better leave the thinking to others. It's never been ridden because usually it was parallel to Bessèges, or other stuff (I think).Gipfelstuermer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2024 11:25 pm- It has never been ridden before in c4f, I think, for lack of popularity
If designed it fulfills all the criteria to be ridden, was surprised it wasn't in the preview actually.
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Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!
Got a carrot from FL. But they threaten to take it away now.
Re: January 2025
Maybe this cannot be handled in a short post. But as this forum is no stranger to long an rumbling post I can give it a go myself. Feel free to stop reading it in the middle when it is too tiresome.Gipfelstuermer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2024 11:25 pmTo name a few, reasons could be:
- It is only cat 2.1
- There are cat 1.1 one day races in parallel
- It is not only about category but also about participants (which WT teams have signed up?)
- The timing isn't perfect between TDU and the many tours we will likely have starting early Feb (whereas in other months UCI calendar is so empty we even add cat 0.0 stage races!)
- Someone will need to design it and it won't be the calendar manager
- It has never been ridden before in c4f, I think, for lack of popularity
- We have 3 other tours in the month already
Would any of those reasons be valid for you?
Having said that, if many people want to ride it, it's not impossible.
(1) We do not treat .1 and .Pro races very different here for good reason. Probably some here know the UCI system better then me, still a short reminder about the participation criteria.
.Pro
UCI WorldTeams (max 70%)
UCI ProTeams
UCI Continental teams (of the country the race is in)
National teams (of the country of the organizer)
UCI foreign continental teams (max. 2)
.1
UCI WorldTeams (max 50%)
UCI ProTeams
UCI continental teams
National teams
Apart from the obvious reason if a race attracts WorldTeams and a bit of prestige the higher category brings there is little benifits. As the difference between the categories is usually not a factor in calendar planning I do not see why it should be here.
(2) I do not see a conflict between one-day races and tours of the same category. Just let the managers decide.
(3) Trust me, I do at least minimal research before I suggest something here. At times the reasons are not good and others disagree with them, but they are always there. Thanks to Lenny for pointing last year's teams out.
(4) Actually the timing is perfect as there is no overlapping tour. There are always many overlapping tours and races in early spring and the in-game-callander should represent this. In February we will certainly need to prioritize one race over another or offer just 2 or even 1 time per tour.
(5) Well there could be somebody who is willing to design it. I have not done real races yet but I do think I could help out or even feel compelled to help out if my suggestions get approved. What I will not do is design races before a decision is made about riding them (there is no information yet anyway). This was done successfully last summer and was discouraging me from offering my help in discussions and designing.
(6) We never have done it is the worst reason for anything. Maybe it overlapped with other tours in the past or just nobody cared about it.
(7) Yes we have a couple of tours this month already but we will certainly have more tours in February and in fact in most months (maybe except Grand Tour month where we cut tours to avoid low participation.
All in all, I will do the calendar comparison feature not to annoy somebody but to further discussion. Too often it is just a this is the calendar and then somebody tries to get a race in because it looks nice for the team or the race is in their home country, a country they like, or similar reasons. just saying this is the UCI calender and this is the plan and we should have a reason why we drop races not the other way round. Honestly, I hate the tour I suggested in real life as it is sportwashing and marketing for a totalitarian country in the best case.
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Re: January 2025
Tour Down Under Profiles are done.
Some comments:
tour down under:
what cat is the race?
Website says 7 riders/team- should it be more?
Final stage has some KOM's but I couldn't tell what category or if they're needed, since the race is completely flat
Villawood Men's Classic:
would design but don't know how to treat criteriums with time limits.
Alula Tour:
I would ride if it was designed, and could help design as well
Some comments:
tour down under:
what cat is the race?
Website says 7 riders/team- should it be more?
Final stage has some KOM's but I couldn't tell what category or if they're needed, since the race is completely flat
Villawood Men's Classic:
would design but don't know how to treat criteriums with time limits.
Alula Tour:
I would ride if it was designed, and could help design as well
Re: January 2025
should be 8 riders then because we ride real riders + 1 mostly but gip should set that correctly when uploading anywaysECS Cycling wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2024 4:21 pm
Some comments:
tour down under:
what cat is the race?
Website says 7 riders/team- should it be more?
Final stage has some KOM's but I couldn't tell what category or if they're needed, since the race is completely flat
according to the tdu pdf i found on ther site its cat 3 KOM on the last stage on km 38
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Re: January 2025
Thanks, will implement nowHansa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2024 4:29 pmshould be 8 riders then because we ride real riders + 1 mostly but gip should set that correctly when uploading anywaysECS Cycling wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2024 4:21 pm
Some comments:
tour down under:
what cat is the race?
Website says 7 riders/team- should it be more?
Final stage has some KOM's but I couldn't tell what category or if they're needed, since the race is completely flat
according to the tdu pdf i found on ther site its cat 3 KOM on the last stage on km 38
and 72
Re: January 2025
Thanks for the fast job at down under !
Did you adjust manually the % of the climbs (and circuits) when it was the same climb done several times ?
If the 1st cat mountain of stages 2, 3 & 5 are the same one that the riders do several times, they look a bit different on the graph.
It's not compulsory, but I think most designer who do official profiles try to make the climbs similar when possible/required.
Did you adjust manually the % of the climbs (and circuits) when it was the same climb done several times ?
If the 1st cat mountain of stages 2, 3 & 5 are the same one that the riders do several times, they look a bit different on the graph.
It's not compulsory, but I think most designer who do official profiles try to make the climbs similar when possible/required.
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Re: January 2025
Should be fixed now
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