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Re: October 2024

Post by Schartner Bombe » Wed Sep 25, 2024 1:28 pm

Gipfelstuermer wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:53 am
Final PDF online


- Vendee cancelled, so Munsterland Giro that day
- Agostoni parallel to Bernocchi instead of parallel to Paris-Tours (if trittico lombardo enthusiasts complain, might change it back, but then they also need to find arguments why trittico lombardo shouldn't be lower category than Paris-Tours)
- Off-Season Classic on the 31st tba by AAD later in the month
- NCs will take place in November
- Tour des Paves will be followed by 3-day Crete Tour (two editions)
- Tour du Faso stays (one edition)

Anything that is designed will be published in the next few days.
Morning edition for Crete Tour is not possible?

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Re: October 2024

Post by Gipfelstuermer » Wed Sep 25, 2024 2:09 pm

Schartner Bombe wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2024 1:28 pm
Morning edition for Crete Tour is not possible?
Only two editions and unusual times are on purpose, so that one day races will also have good participation during those 3 days. 13h is also a compromise for people at work, because it might be acceptable for morning- and afternoon-workers.
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Re: October 2024

Post by Robyklebt » Wed Sep 25, 2024 2:50 pm

Gipfelstuermer wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:53 am
- Agostoni parallel to Bernocchi instead of parallel to Paris-Tours (if trittico lombardo enthusiasts complain, might change it back, but then they also need to find arguments why trittico lombardo shouldn't be lower category than Paris-Tours)
Scandalous. While it would make sense to put it there in almost every other situation, not when it's then parallel to another race of the same trittico!

I'll pass on the arguments vs Paris-Tours (don't really understand why we would need arguments there) and go directly to:

Paris-Bourges cancelled too according to PCS. And according to this here:
https://www.cyclismactu.net/news-cyclis ... 82565.html
Doesn't appear on the overly complicated UCI site either.
On their own site though no information about cancellation at all...

But with multiple sources saying it's cancelled, I think it's safe to assume it is, that means the 3rd is free.
Münsterland there, logic. original date. And the Agostoni on the 4th makes sense.

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Re: October 2024

Post by Gipfelstuermer » Wed Sep 25, 2024 5:10 pm

Ha! What would we do without race cancellations? Nice solution!

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Re: October 2024

Post by Robyklebt » Wed Sep 25, 2024 7:35 pm

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With the slight change in circuit, a new approach to Lissolo, the climb changed a bit, only the last 800-900 the same, comes out at 7 7 now
Colle Brianza changed too, even if it's as far as I know the same climb, from (2) 8 6 6 to 7 6 6 4

Mintact at 138, last Lissolo at 131, if we want mintact from 130 easily changeable.
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Re: October 2024

Post by Hansa » Wed Sep 25, 2024 9:43 pm

la flamme rouge has GPX data for Guangxi:
https://www.la-flamme-rouge.eu/maps/races/view/2024/60

the official Guangxi site still shows the profile from last year
http://www.tourofguangxi.com.cn/en/legone.html

but the profiles form this chiness social media platform match with the flamme rouge profile:
https://weibo.com/6242261184/Ox7Gnn4Rh? ... rofilefeed

but a bit work to do to fit the IS and GPMs.

i dont think i have the time to design it but maybe these infos help someone else to design

Edit: Flamme rouge also has the Data for the IS and GPMs but youll need an account there to visit the profiles
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Re: October 2024

Post by olmania » Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:26 pm

Hansa wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2024 9:43 pm
la flamme rouge has GPX data for Guangxi:
https://www.la-flamme-rouge.eu/maps/races/view/2024/60

the official Guangxi site still shows the profile from last year
http://www.tourofguangxi.com.cn/en/legone.html

but the profiles form this chiness social media platform match with the flamme rouge profile:
https://weibo.com/6242261184/Ox7Gnn4Rh? ... rofilefeed

but a bit work to do to fit the IS and GPMs.

i dont think i have the time to design it but maybe these infos help someone else to design

Edit: Flamme rouge also has the Data for the IS and GPMs but youll need an account there to visit the profiles
I might have time to design it this weekend, if no one else does it before. thanks for the research !

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Re: October 2024

Post by Gipfelstuermer » Thu Sep 26, 2024 1:13 pm

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Thu Sep 26, 2024 12:54 pm
GP Brescia is supposed to be the first offseason classic again this year at 31.10.2024
Just to align with the Off-Season Preview and the Final final PDF (which I have no problem to change to a final final final version): Would you like the offseason classic season to start on 31.10. and remove/postpone the one planned for 27.10.? Or did you miss that FL had put Brescia on the 27.10. and are OK with having that there and another classic on 31.10. ? Indeed I couldn't find an October with 2 offseason classics (usually 0 or 1), so you might argue that it is a too early start of the offseason-classic-season having 2 of them in October. Either way it's fine for me, just wanna know if I need to produce another pdf :)
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Re: October 2024

Post by Robyklebt » Thu Sep 26, 2024 1:55 pm

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Nothing major changed compared to last year, well, shorter approach to the circuit, so the race is shorter, that's about it.
Mintact at 144, last 7% of the race.
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Re: October 2024

Post by flockmastoR » Thu Sep 26, 2024 2:32 pm

Gipfelstuermer wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2024 1:13 pm
flockmastoR wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2024 12:54 pm
GP Brescia is supposed to be the first offseason classic again this year at 31.10.2024
Just to align with the Off-Season Preview and the Final final PDF (which I have no problem to change to a final final final version): Would you like the offseason classic season to start on 31.10. and remove/postpone the one planned for 27.10.? Or did you miss that FL had put Brescia on the 27.10. and are OK with having that there and another classic on 31.10. ? Indeed I couldn't find an October with 2 offseason classics (usually 0 or 1), so you might argue that it is a too early start of the offseason-classic-season having 2 of them in October. Either way it's fine for me, just wanna know if I need to produce another pdf :)
Damn, sry didn't check it. Just didn't see Brescia already in at the 27th and thought the classics start at the 31st. Brescia on the 27th is okay for me. Add GP Coimbra (2) at the 31.10.

PS: Changed to GP Coimbra as it is in the offseason fantasy region
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Re: October 2024

Post by Gipfelstuermer » Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:35 am

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Re: October 2024

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Re: October 2024

Post by flockmastoR » Fri Sep 27, 2024 5:49 pm

Just planned the fantasy one day races for October.

We are starting in the MED region, I added no fantasy TT/TTT as we have Chrono d.N. at the 13th. I added From Tusk till down as pave race on the 29th. We also have Tour de Paves for the pave lovers.

Times are not set yet but just to give you a hint on what races you can expect!
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Re: October 2024

Post by Robyklebt » Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:12 pm

Lazy Donkey has motivation problems with Tre Valli... annoying stuff there.

So he'll first do Lombardia, more important, tomorrow, Tre Valli after that. (Planned tomorrow too)
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Re: October 2024

Post by rsv flaschbier » Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:58 am

Japan Cup Cycle Road Race

It's the same track than last year, but on https://www.japancup.gr.jp/2024/english
there are inconsistencies about the number of laps.

On top of the page:
"The course is 10.3 kilometers times 16 laps with a total distance of 164.8 kilometers. "

And further below:
"Distance 144.2km (10.3km x 14Laps)"

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Re: October 2024

Post by Robyklebt » Sun Sep 29, 2024 2:31 pm

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Lombardia done.
252 km.
Climbs according to the Lombardia site. Last kms: 6 8 6 -5 -5 -6 -4 0
Mintact at km 222. Could be 198, when the Colma di Sormano starts. Opinions? Gipfel can do adapt it when putting it online.
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Re: October 2024

Post by Hansa » Sun Sep 29, 2024 3:59 pm

198 feels good for mintact
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Re: October 2024

Post by Robyklebt » Sun Sep 29, 2024 4:33 pm

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Tre Valli Varesine done. 200 km, finish 6 5 3 0.
Different circuits than last year, but little actually changes, ok, there's an 8 in the long circuit we ride twice at the end, 15km from the finish.

Mintact 30km
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Re: October 2024

Post by Gipfelstuermer » Tue Oct 01, 2024 11:47 am

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Nice criterium suggested by FL. Mintact km50. I like it one day before Lombardia.
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Re: October 2024

Post by lennylenny » Mon Oct 07, 2024 11:40 am

Japan Cup has the same profile as usual, just 14 laps instead of 16 accord8ng to official website
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Re: October 2024

Post by flockmastoR » Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:39 pm

Anybody already planning to design the tour de paves this year?
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Re: October 2024

Post by team fl » Tue Oct 08, 2024 11:06 am

This week, we have the Trittico Lombardo (since Friday last week actually), Piemonte and Lombardia. All races are classic races with hilly profiles. Do we really need an Eroica race in such a one day race packed time? Eroica races are fun (at least to me), don't get me wrong, but they are also very energy absorbing. So having an Eroica race between two Italian fall classics, looks like a misplacement to me. It's clear, that it's too late to change, so I just ask politely, if the placement of such energy intensive "fantasy" races may be more sensible in the future, thanks :).
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Re: October 2024

Post by Robyklebt » Tue Oct 08, 2024 12:07 pm

Robyklebt wrote:
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Next: Eroica, put it to some other date. It's energy sapping usually, so don't put it a day before a cat 4 race. Either during the Pavé tour, or just after (both not ideal either) or then 28-29-30

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Re: October 2024

Post by team fl » Tue Oct 08, 2024 2:33 pm

Robyklebt wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 12:07 pm
Robyklebt wrote:
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Next: Eroica, put it to some other date. It's energy sapping usually, so don't put it a day before a cat 4 race. Either during the Pavé tour, or just after (both not ideal either) or then 28-29-30

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Re: October 2024

Post by Gipfelstuermer » Wed Oct 09, 2024 3:36 pm

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